Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] I am truly aggrevated

2008-12-31 15:07:51

It was my understanding that they would always take the highest BMI. What is
your dr. saying? And may I add, you are doing really great to bring it down
that far on your own! Keep it up! Don't let a little dispute w/ the ins. co.
defeat you. Make sure that any co-mobidities are mentioned, or family history
w/ diabetes or heart disease....all of that. Any skin issues (swellings, lymph
problems etc) make sure all your "T's" are crossed and "I's" are dotted! We
will be here for you too Janet. One step at a time. :)
Lisa A
Janet Kilpatrick <pinkie1153@...
Okay so I had to go through a six month supervised weight loss program
per my insurance. I just finished this and I am patiently waiting for word from
the insurance company. My Bariatrics Center just called and said that my
insurance company is trying to be difficult because my BMI is now below 40. It
was 43 when they made me do a weight loss program and it dropped to a whopping
39.7 and now the insurance company is balking. What is up with that. I am so
upset.
Janet K.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Ally's pictures

2008-12-31 05:48:49

Hi Debra-
Thank you so much! No, I'm not at goal weight. I'd still like to lose about 20
more pounds. That dress was flattering in many ways. ;)
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/158/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

I am truly aggrevated

2008-12-31 02:39:00

Okay so I had to go through a six month supervised weight loss program per my
insurance. I just finished this and I am patiently waiting for word from the
insurance company. My Bariatrics Center just called and said that my insurance
company is trying to be difficult because my BMI is now below 40. It was 43
when they made me do a weight loss program and it dropped to a whopping 39.7 and
now the insurance company is balking. What is up with that. I am so upset.
Janet K.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Some of Ally's pics

2008-12-30 17:15:53

Thank you so much Lizanne. I was so happy and now that I look at the pictures I
can see that I really was beaming just like everyone says.
Don't let those pictures fool you. The extra skin is there. I just tried to
keep my arms down and avoid side shots. ;)
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/158/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: I just left the group...

2008-12-30 14:06:20

Lisa A,
That's where a lot of us began. They supported us in the beginning.
The split was a very sad thing for most of us, but, as you say, most
of the people we love came here. I understand your hesitation.
Lizanne

Baskin Robbins ice cream

2008-12-30 05:01:21

Just an FYI...tomorrow between the hours of 5 and 10 pm baskin Robbins
(31 flavors) is selling 2.5 oz scoops of ice cream for .31. they have
several SF flavors. I was checking them out and the sugar and fat
levels are not bad. Now where I live, Baskin Robbins is really big so
I plan to take my kids there after my sons doctors appt, and I may have
some as well. they have a chocolate chocolate chip and a turtle flavor
in SF. 2.5 oz is small so that should be a good thing. Now, given my
tummy issues right now I may pay for it so we'll see. My kids however
will be happy w/ their treat.
If you are interested, you can go onto their webbie and look up the
section marked as treats. This will bring up the available flavors and
if you click on those, you will get the nutritional guide. Remember
that the guide reflects the info on a normal 4 oz scoop so adjust as
needed. :)
I SCREAM YOU SCREAM...you know the rest.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] New Photo Album

2008-12-30 01:37:51

Beautiful pics Ally! Thanks for posting them for us :))
There is just one thing I find difficult to believe... that there are that many
people who like Jagermeister!!! ickkkkkkkkkkk
Pat
--- On Tue, 4/29/08, Allison <allisonmarie22@...
From: Allison <allisonmarie22@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] New Photo Album

I just left the group...

2008-12-29 21:32:49

No this one. I finally left the other group. I have not posted there
or read their posts since the big split so why do I keep allowing the
digest to come to me? One less thing for me to delete everyday. I
feel a little guilty, but I don't know why....all of the people I
talked to there are here. I am just weird I guess.

As others see us

2008-12-29 16:24:06

Thanks Pat. That was very nice of you to write such flattery. (See
I am practicing not pointing out all the flaws you missed). I too
wish I could see myself as others see me, especially as men would see
me. I think the mole story is great. Did anyone ask if you got a
new hairdo?
Lizanne

Ally's pictures

2008-12-29 08:12:47

Ally,
The pictures are wonderful. Thank you for sharing. You are a beautiful bride
and look so thin. Are you at your goal weight now?
Debby

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Co-worker

2008-12-29 05:44:07

Lizanne,
I'm looking at the support as a good thing, I'll take it. I just wonder
what it will be like down the road, if I don't meet *their *expectations, I
already told my boss that if I ended up at 180, it would still beat the hell
out of where I started, as long as I was healthy. As far as the hair, I
have never missed my vit's or protein since surgery. I even took zinc and
b's pre op to prepare, and still my hair comes out every day. I hope since
I started loosing it early, it will stop early (crossing my fingers). You
know what's funny, my nails are growing like weeds and my eyelashes have
finally come back to pre cancer thickness. Who knows... only my body does.
Edie
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:03 PM, lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] update on journey

2008-12-29 00:22:51

well some of the oldies know I have stomach issues, had hpylori a few months ago
and felt better after antibiotic treatment but it seems for the past few weeks
the pain is starting up again. back when i saw my surgeon for my consult in
October I mentioned all this drama and she said my gallbladder probably was the
culprit of the IBS symptoms. she said if it was my gallbladder and i could wait
she would remove during surgery. well gallbladder ultrasound showed no stones.
BUT since my pains have start again when I emailed her last week I told her if
she could revisit removing my gallbladder. she ordered a HIDA scan for me, and I
just looked it up, scattered info. NURSE BUDDIES: give me the 411 on HIDA scan.
I go in tomorrow for this procedure. surgeon had mentioned that just because
there is no stones doesn't mean that the gallbladder is acting right, maybe it's
not working properly. I just emailed my sister and she said get it out with
surgery because
my other sister had hers removed 4 months after GBS and suffered all that time.
Thoughts anyone???
Losing It With Friends!
Travis' Grandma
TRAVIS GERALD DAVILA - 04/25/08, 6:28 pm - 7.14 lbs - 20 in.
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: New Photo Album

2008-12-28 09:10:59

WOW!!!Those are lovely pics Ally....they were awesome!! Thanks for
indulging us..lol. Love that dress girl...strut ur stuff...lol
LaDetra

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Travis Pics

2008-12-28 08:39:52

Hi Lizanne, they are all doing great! Travis had his 1st checkup yesterday all
is well. I came back to work today RELUCTANTLY but they were taking Travis to
his other gma so I figured why stay home. but i am soooo tired! Thursday I go
with my daughter to her OB appt. so now that baby starts growing LOL. shes 3
months already.
Losing It With Friends!
Travis' Grandma
TRAVIS GERALD DAVILA - 04/25/08, 6:28 pm - 7.14 lbs - 20 in.
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

New Photo Album

2008-12-28 02:02:49

Hello Friends-
I created a new album called Ally's wedding and put some candid shots in there
for your viewing pleasure! :)
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/158/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: Ashley's Surgery Day, 4/30/2008, 12:00 am

2008-12-28 01:38:47

Good Luck Ashley- May "your higher power" be with you

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Ummm... just struggling

2008-12-27 10:19:15

Lora,
of course you can't "not" think about it. I'm sure you are doing the best you
can at this difficult time. Have you made plans to go out with your friends for
dinner like you usually do? You need to surround yourself with those who care so
much about you. Not having really bad foods in the house was smart. At this
moment it would be really hard to stay away from comfort foods. I am so sorry
you are having to deal with this.
Debby
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I'm really short on words right now... rough time... and not doing
particularly well with not trying to soothe the emotions with food
(although at least there is no REALLY bad food in the house)... and I
aggravated my hernia moving the couch twice this weekend.
Please don't tell me not to let this "anniversary" get to me, not to
let THEM win by giving in to thinking about it, etc.. I know such
comments are well-intentioned, but they make me feel like such a
failure because I cannot NOT think about it right now.
Lora

Re: Ummm... just struggling

2008-12-27 09:07:34

Lora,
You are right...we don't know what to say to help you out. Just know
that if we could we would help you through this really tough time.
You may whine or grumble or ramble all you want and we will
understand. I just wish there was something I could do or say to
help. I would suggest to keep yourself busy. That is the only thing
I can offer. Be with people who love you.
Try a heating pad on your tummy. That may make things feel better.
Even if it doesn't "fix" the alien, warmth generally is soothing.
Lizanne

Ummm... just struggling

2008-12-27 05:32:47

I'm really short on words right now... rough time... and not doing
particularly well with not trying to soothe the emotions with food
(although at least there is no REALLY bad food in the house)... and I
aggravated my hernia moving the couch twice this weekend.
Please don't tell me not to let this "anniversary" get to me, not to
let THEM win by giving in to thinking about it, etc.. I know such
comments are well-intentioned, but they make me feel like such a
failure because I cannot NOT think about it right now.
Lora

Co-workers

2008-12-26 22:11:29

Edie,
The hair issue is tough to ignore. I sympathize with you. It took
about 3.5 mos for mine to become really bad, then about 3 months of
being nearly totally bald and finally about 2 months to grow long
enough that I can actually style it. I have that windblown look
because there isn't really enough to wrap around a curling iron
unless I want hair with tiny little curls. I do not want that.
But...I am happy to have hair and to not have to wear a santa hat or
wig. If anyone is interested, the wigs are still in very good shape,
and I would gladly pass them on. Hopefully, no one was as dumb as I
was to get as malnourished and as malvitamined as I was. (No offense
meant).
I understand that you are leary about the wellmeaning but constant
evaluation you are receiving from your co-workers. I don't know
which is worse...a bunch of people who ignore me or a bunch that
scrutinize your actions. That puts undue pressure on you. But it
could also give you incentive to do the best you can do.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] my update

2008-12-26 19:08:43

OMG Tarra... how awful!! I have never heard of that happening to anyone before!
My surgeon said he arranges the intestines, etc so that there are no gaps or
empty places for anything to move around or shift into.. it sounds like your
surgeon did NOT do that. How are you feeling now?? Are you able to eat? No
wonder your pouch was cranky!!! I'm happy they found the problem and could fix
it!!
Pat
--- On Tue, 4/29/08, Hartl's <hartl@...
From: Hartl's <hartl@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] my update

my update

2008-12-26 09:18:03

My Update:
I was very sick last week and ended up back in the hospital for more
surgery. Monday I got so violently ill I had hubby take me to the ER.
They sent me to my surgeon's office since it was still office hours,
made an appt for me and sent me home. I didn't make it far and went
back. They gave me good drugs and sent me home. I made it home until
about 10 that night before my hubby had to take me back. This time they
kept me and I got sicker and sicker until morning. There were nurses
and a doctor in tears with me, that is how horribly miserable I was.
Stomach pain like never before (worse than contractions, I swear!!)
and dry heaves almost non-stop. It was awful. Well after an endoscopy
they decided they needed to go back into the stomach so I had 4
incisions re-opened and they rearranged my innerds. JOY! Turns out
things were all folded, bunched, and herniated in there. The surgeon
put it all back into place and "tacked it all down". (his words) So
my intestines shouldn't end up behind my stomach again, hopefully.
Have any of you been through this? Will it happen again?
Thanks for your input and support!!
Best Wishes,
Tarra
RNY 3/19/08
lost almost 50 pounds already
but that's probably because my pouch is still cranky!!!

hairdresser did not recognize me

2008-12-25 22:53:05

Lizanne,
You worked hard for those compliments. Take them. Enjoy, because one day
the compliments will stop, and you'll be just an average skinny girl :).
I'm glad you like your new hair do, you have hair, yea!!! Mine started
falling out at 2.5 mo's and hasn't stopped yet (I'm out 5/5 mo's now),
luckily I have a ton of hair.
It's funny, I have just the opposite issue at work, I work with 12 women who
look every day to see how I look, I had 2 of them tell me today that I
looked beautiful :o). My concern is when I really slow down with my
loosing, will they watch me like a hawk to see what I am eating?? Will they
comment that I need a few more to go??? I hope not, but only time will
tell. They have been so supportive, I couldn't ask for more. They went
through cancer with me, now this. Plus tons of diets in between.
Edie

Organize Your Workout

2008-12-25 16:28:26

By Michael Mejia, Men's Health
Here's a sign of the times: You can actually hire people to come to
your house and organize your closets. They'll also do your garage,
your attic, and the shed in your backyard. These people are tough on
pack rats. They ask questions like "Why do you have this box of dog
leashes, but no dog?"
My job isn't all that different. As a trainer, if I see something in
a client's workout-or my own-that doesn't belong there, I get rid of
it. If I see a redundant exercise, it's gone. Disorganized workout? I
organize it. And if I see a client doing a program he got out of some
old bodybuilding magazine, I throw the whole thing out and start over.
I can't come to your gym and fix your workout (or organize your
closets). But I can tell you what you need to know to organize your
own regimen, based on your goals, your available time, and your
experience. I'll even throw in six sample workouts for beginner
through advanced lifters. Now, about those closets . . .
Goals
I assume the closet lady would start by asking, "What do you need
this closet to do for you?" Me, I'd ask the same question,
substituting the word "workout" for "closet." Usually, these goals
fall into three categories:
Lose weight: If you're a beginner, start with a circuit routine in
which you do 10 to 12 exercises one after the other, 10 to 15
repetitions per set, with little or no rest in between. Do two or
three circuits.
If you're more advanced, try supersets. In these, you do two
exercises back-to-back, rest 60 seconds, and then repeat once or
twice. There are many ways to do supersets, but for fat loss, I'd
like to see you use as much muscle as possible. One way is to pair
exercises that work completely different muscles, such as squats and
seated rows.
Build muscle: For most men, I recommend exercises that allow you to
do eight to 12 repetitions per set. You can do them as straight sets-
complete a set, rest about 60 seconds, do the next set of the same
thing, and keep going that way until you've finished all your sets
and are ready to move on to the next exercise.
If you have more experience, try supersets, but not the way you did
them for fat loss. Pair synergistic exercises-two moves that work the
same muscles. Usually, the first is a compound move to work a lot of
muscles, the second a single-joint exercise to focus on one large
muscle. So barbell bench presses might be followed by dumbbell flies.
Shoulder presses could lead in to lateral raises.
Gain strength: There's no secret here-heavy weights, low repetitions
(usually three to five per set for the most important moves, such as
squats, deadlifts, and bench presses), and longer rest (up to 4
minutes) between sets. You don't have to do every exercise this way,
of course. Start with low reps on your main moves, then do more
repetitions with lighter weights and shorter rest periods on less
important ones.
Available Time
This is akin to the closet lady saying, "What's your budget?" Before
I design a program, I need to know how much time you're going to put
in. I'm going to assume everyone is willing to work out 40 to 60
minutes per session.
To me, that's a finite window, just as your closet is a finite size.
If you want to do longer workouts, great, but I usually don't go in
that direction. If I can't give you a system that gets it done in an
hour or less, there's something wrong with my program. To me, the big
variable here is how many days a week you're able and willing to work
out.
Two days a week: No matter your level or goals, do total-body
workouts. You want to hit your major muscles twice a week; otherwise,
they'll be completely rested between workouts and will have no reason
to grow.
If you're a beginner, stick to circuits, as I recommended above for
fat loss. But if you're more interested in building muscle than in
losing fat, I suggest doing sets of eight to 12 reps, with perhaps a
little more rest in between exercises.
Another option for saving time is to do antagonistic supersets. These
pair up movements that involve opposite muscle actions, such as
situps and back extensions.
Three days a week: If you're not a beginner, you can adopt a split
routine. The easiest to remember is the upper-body/ lower-body split.
You alternate between them, so if you're training three times a week,
you'll do upper-lower-upper 1 week, then lower-upper-lower the next.
If you're working out four times a week, you'll do upper on Monday
and Thursday, and lower on Tuesday and Friday.
What you do during those split routines depends on your goals
(explained above) and your experience (explained below).
Experience
Beginners make gains with just about any type of program, so it's
best to keep it simple and safe-fairly high repetitions, basic
exercises, total-body workouts. The more experience you have, the
more you'll benefit from heavier weights and lower repetitions, more
advanced exercises and techniques, and split routines.
Another issue is recovery. A beginner can recover in 48 hours and do
fine with three total-body workouts a week. A more advanced lifter
needs to give his muscles more time to recover, since he's hitting
them harder.
Also, the more experienced you are, the less time you should spend on
a program before moving on. A beginner can do the same program for 6
to 10 weeks without hitting a plateau. Grizzled iron vets may need to
move on every 2 or 3 weeks. You probably fall somewhere in between.

Self Care-Very Interesting-Long

2008-12-25 15:07:00

By Pamela M. Peeke, MD, MPH, Prevention
"I was doing really well until..." As a doctor who counsels women
trying to lose weight, I've heard this too many times. An upset
patient settles into the overstuffed armchair across from my desk,
and utters her tale of defeat.
You've probably said those words yourself, dozens of times. You're
doing great, eating right, working out regularly, and something
happens. You hurt your back or shoulder and find it difficult to
train. Maybe life just gets crazy and suddenly you're missing
workouts and turning to food for comfort. The hell with minimeals and
lean protein. What you need is a pile of cookies.
I sympathizeI've had my share of those days. But life happens. I
have no doubt that you're a master at helping the people you care
about get through tough times. But when things get funky in your
life, do you give yourself the same treatment?
The following 10 steps are all about turning that feminine impulse to
nurture inward and becoming your own best caregiver, regardless of
the obstacles life places in your path. These principles will help
you stay on track, no matter what life throws at you.
Pledge to Change
You've had it. You're tired of feeling like crud every day, and
you're determined to get in shape, mentally and physically.
Hold on. You may be champing at the bit to overhaul your diet, start
exercisingbecome the new you. But if your positive changes are to be
permanent, you need to recognize the adversity you'll face. I want
you to put your intentions in writing and acknowledge the difficult
times to come. On the best stationery you can findno scrap paper
write out and complete the following contract.
I,

Fit and Fat Study

2008-12-25 10:28:47

CHICAGO - New research challenges the notion that you can be fat and
fit, finding that being active can lower but not eliminate heart
risks faced by heavy women. "It doesn't take away the risk entirely.
Weight still matters," said Dr. Martha Gulati, a heart specialist at
Northwestern Memorial Hospital.
Previous research has gone back and forth on whether exercise or
weight has a greater influence on heart disease risks.
The new study involving nearly 39,000 women helps sort out the
combined effects of physical activity and body mass on women's
chances of developing heart disease, said Gulati, who wasn't involved
in the research.
The study by Harvard-affiliated researchers appears in Monday's
Archives of Internal Medicine.
Participants were women aged 54 on average who filled out a
questionnaire at the study's start detailing their height, weight and
amount of weekly physical activity in the past year, including
walking, jogging, bicycling and swimming. They were then tracked for
about 11 years. Overall 948 women developed heart disease.
Women were considered active if they followed government-recommended
guidelines and got at least 30 minutes of moderate activity most days
of the week, including brisk walking or jogging. Women who got less
exercise than that were considered inactive.
Weight was evaluated by body mass index: A BMI between 25 and 29 is
considered overweight, while obese is 30 and higher.
Compared with normal-weight active women, the risk for developing
heart disease was 54 percent higher in overweight active women and 87
percent higher in obese active women. By contrast, it was 88 percent
higher in overweight inactive women; and 2 1/2 times greater in obese
inactive women.
About two in five U.S. women at age 50 will eventually develop heart
attacks or other cardiovascular problems. Excess weight can raise
those odds in many ways, including by increasing blood pressure and
risks for diabetes, and by worsening cholesterol. Exercise
counteracts all three.
"It is reassuring to see that physical activity really does make an
impact," said lead author Dr. Amy Weinstein of Boston's Beth Israel
Deaconess Medical Center. However, she added, "If you're overweight
or obese, you can't really get back to that lower risk entirely with
just physical activity alone."
University of South Carolina obesity expert Steven Blair, a leading
proponent of the "fit and fat" theory, said the study is limited by
relying on women's self-reporting their activity levels. That method
is not as reliable as a more objective fitness evaluation including
exercise treadmill tests, Blair said. These tests include heart-rate
measures to see how the heart responds to and tolerates exercise.
In Blair's research, overweight people deemed 'fit' by treadmill
tests did not face increased risks of dying from heart disease.
Dr. Laura Concannon, who specializes in treating overweight patients
at Chicago's Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center, said the
study's message that exercise can help reduce health risks isn't new,
but it's important.
"Anything that can motivate the public is useful because heart
disease is becoming a bigger and bigger problem as levels of obesity
increase," Concannon said.

Re: Its going to be a long day

2008-12-24 20:19:31

Lisa A,
Do any of the proton pump inhibitors help? Previcid, prilosec...even
tums or rolaids? Even just a little to keep this from being soooo
painful. When do you get your ultrasound? Maybe you could cry over
the phone and get them to speed it up. Just a suggestion.
Lizanne

Its going to be a long day

2008-12-24 20:14:29

My back is already starting to ache so the stomach fire will be
starting anytime now. UGH! I can not wait for my ultrasound so that
I can find out if this is a nasty ulcer or gall bladder. I hurt so
badly every day now. It really wears you down.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Its going to be a long day

2008-12-24 18:47:07

I'm sorry you are having to go through that, Lisa. When is your ultrasound?
Did they not give you anything for your discomfort? Can you call the dr to get
something?

Pat
--- On Tue, 4/29/08, Lisa <lisaatwell1968@...
From: Lisa <lisaatwell1968@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] Its going to be a long day

Re: Scared- and waiting for my surgery

2008-12-24 09:13:52

Althea,
We have all felt like you. This is a big step and one you will have
to deal with for the rest of your life. It is so exciting to know
that with work and this great surgery tool we can be healthy and
energetic. The best thing you can do is to learn as much as you can
so that you will know the pitfalls and can learn how to deal with
your emotions without reverting back to eating.
Good luck and keep posting. We will do our best to help you come
through this journey with flying colors.
Lizanne
Open RNY 8/17/07
Maryland

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Ashley's Surgery Day, 4/30/2008, 12:00 am

2008-12-24 01:55:50

Ashley, Have a great surgery. let us know how you are doing. Do you have a
surgery angel?
Debby

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Scared- and waiting for my surgery

2008-12-24 00:46:27

Althea,
I it very normal to be scared. Take this time to learn all you can. The more
you know the easier this surgery will be. I had my surgery 1/14/08 and it was
the best thing I have done for myself. Like you I have lost weight in the past
but have gained it all back and more. Most if not all of us in this group can
tell that same story. I didn't want to keep yo-yoing with my weight. You still
have to work even with the surgery but having this tool makes it so much easier.
This group is wonderful and will support you on this journey. Ask any questions
you have. sometimes just listening to each others struggles and successes will
help you to learn what life after surgery is like. Being scared is normal but
don't let the fear make your decision for you. Make an informed decision that
you will be comfortable with. Good luck on this exciting journey.
Debby
Tresha <tresha76nj@...
Hello My name is Althea and I am the process of having gastric
bypass
surgery but I am getting nervous/ scared. Is this normal? I have a
weight issue since birth. I loss a hundred pound about six years ago
but I have gain back what I have loss and then some. I know the risk I
will be taken but I am not sure, I want this I am so tried of being
fat, having no energy (to play with me son, to have sex with my
husband, to work, to keep my house clean). I can't afford to buy new
clothes because the one in my closet is getting too small. I don't feel
sexy and I don't feel pretty no matter how much my husband tells me. I
need your support. I am currently at 299.5 pound (don't tell anyone..
I am so embarrass)

Scared- and waiting for my surgery

2008-12-23 15:00:09

Hello My name is Althea and I am the process of having gastric bypass
surgery but I am getting nervous/ scared. Is this normal? I have a
weight issue since birth. I loss a hundred pound about six years ago
but I have gain back what I have loss and then some. I know the risk I
will be taken but I am not sure, I want this I am so tried of being
fat, having no energy (to play with me son, to have sex with my
husband, to work, to keep my house clean). I can't afford to buy new
clothes because the one in my closet is getting too small. I don't feel
sexy and I don't feel pretty no matter how much my husband tells me. I
need your support. I am currently at 299.5 pound (don't tell anyone..
I am so embarrass)

Some of Ally's pics

2008-12-23 03:30:16

Ally,
I just peaked at your pics. You made such a beautiful bride. Not
exaggerating at all. Your weight loss has been great and you just look
so good, not even like you have any extra skin. And that picture of
you in the limo....wow...you are just beaming. Oh, and your hubby is
pretty awesome too. He is one lucky man.
Lizanne

Re: I'm Baaack!!

2008-12-22 23:22:36

Ally,
I have heard that your pics on myspace are fantastic. I am so glad
everything went so well for your wedding. Especially the weather.
So tell us all about the honeymoon. Did you ever get to leave the
room? Nevermind.
And no weight gain...must have been all that exercise.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I'm Baaack!

2008-12-22 20:53:35

Welcome back Ally,
You "sound" very happy. I'm so glad you had a wonderful day and week. I
rarely look at the pic's (cause I'm never in the site, I get my responses
via e-mail), but I'll make sure I go on to see your pic's.
Congrats,
Edie

Re: no more cranky pouch

2008-12-22 14:55:19

Pauleen,
I hope you don't have to deal with a cranky pouch ever again. I
don't...but we are all different. I can eat anything. Glad to read
that you are feeling better.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] no more cranky pouch

2008-12-22 09:15:53

Pauleen,
I am so glad you are feeling better. Now you can enjoy the results of the
sugery without the pain whoooopeeeee.
Debby
Pauleen McCollum <mcco2lum@...
I really seemed to have turned a corner. My pouch has really settled
down and I can eat without pain. I had a sloppy joe without the bun for dinner.
I would say today is the first good day I've had since I started soft foods.
Pauleen

I'm Baaack!!

2008-12-21 23:17:54

Hello Friends-
I am back from my honeymoon!
My wedding was an absolutely perfect day. The weather was perfect and the
ceremony/reception were absolutely flawless. The honeymoon in St. Lucia was
spectacular. The weather, the food, the beaches...everything was just perfect.
I highly recommend St. Lucia for a vacation spot and we're already thinking of
going back there for another vacation in 2009.
When I get my pictures posted I will let you all know where you can go to look
at them.
I missed all of you guys so much and I can't wait until I can get all caught up.
:oD
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/158/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I'm Baaack!!

2008-12-21 20:24:59

Well it's about time you got your butt back here young lady!!!! Rumor has it
that you already posted pics on my space.. *before* posting here!!! I don't do
my space, so I haven't seen them yet. hmph!!!!!
Now that I have that off my chest.... WELCOME BACK!!! :)))
I can't wait to see all the pics... I bet you were beautiful and your hubby was
handsome :)
Pat
--- On Mon, 4/28/08, Allison <allisonmarie22@...
From: Allison <allisonmarie22@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] I'm Baaack!!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] My first body

2008-12-21 18:01:13

I'm learning that slowly but surely.
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] East Coast Gatherin

2008-12-21 12:38:29

I can't do that weekend,:( we alway have a big party that weekend. Maybe
next time. I'm in Michigan.
Edie
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:07 PM, lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...

no more cranky pouch

2008-12-21 00:18:49

I really seemed to have turned a corner. My pouch has really settled down and I
can eat without pain. I had a sloppy joe without the bun for dinner. I would say
today is the first good day I've had since I started soft foods.
Pauleen

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] update on BABY and DATE-- VERY LONG

2008-12-20 20:24:34

Hi there everyone. I have been so busy with just stuff that I haven't gotten
online except to hurry and put pics and then thats it until now. BABY UPDATE:
so first off, my new love is just wonderful (I mean Travis). He is so huggable.
but grandma is pooped. Friday at 2:00 a.m. Britt came and told me pains can't
sleep, so I stayed up with her, 9:00 am we went to hospital, 6:28 pm Travis
born, left hospital at 9:30 pm and didn't get to sleep until after 11:00 pm. I
was up 21 Straight Hours!!! so was she for that matter. 6:30 a.m. saturday,
Britt alone at hospital can't sleep wants Josh, so she kept texting me. then my
daughter in florida forgets time diff and also starts texting me. so Josh left
to get his little family. Lord!!!! I was tired but it was date day and
DATE UPDATE: I somehow managed to get to my date. Hector picked me up at 10:30
am because josh took car. we then took Bart to SanFran, had brunch at a 50's
diner, took trolley ride through city to Fishermans Wharf, walked ALOT!! went
and had ice cream at Pier 39! sat at pier enjoying the bay and people watching
:) then took bus back where we started and got back to Hayward where I live and
had dinner at Olive Garden, dinner and wine!! got home around 8:30 pm, so
another long date :) had a great time. he is very nice, very gentlemanly, we
laugh alot, he has a great sense of humor. BUT GIRLS let me tell you a couple of
times the arm went around my shoulder or at my back and I was about to faint!
sorry but I am 47 years old and have had TWO relationships and the last one
ended in 1990. so imagine. like a schoolgirl, nervous wreck.
so of course since Friday my food intake has sucked big time. friday at
hospital only Mcdonalds to eat, so I had nuggets and a bagel all day. saturday
was totally blown cause I treated myself to eat whatever I wanted on my date.
yesterday out shopping with my grandbaby and just literally swallowed taco bell,
I always feel like I need real food when I am exhausted. LET me tell you less
than 1 hr later, taco bell went to you know where quickly!!!! SO DO I STILL
COUNT IT LOL! Britts family came over last night and we ate salad with grilled
chicken and shrimp, so I think that was okay but I ate alot. stuffed, felt
miserable.
I AM HAVING big issues when I eat "regular" food and bigger portions, my stomach
doesn't like it cause I'm used to eating smaller sizes. but oh well.
I am off today and maybe a few more days, haven't decided yet. my daughter
returns from florida on wed. I HEAR HIM SQUEALING so cute!!!
PICTURES ONLINE! THANKS TO ALL OF YOU AND ALL YOUR LOVE AND WELL WISHES.
Losing It With Friends!
Travis' Grandma
TRAVIS GERALD DAVILA - 04/25/08, 6:28 pm - 7.14 lbs - 20 in.
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Ally's Wedding

2008-12-20 14:19:29

She has already posted a few of her wedding pics on her myspace page. . She WAS
a beautiful bride. . just like we all predicted! Can't wait to see more pics!!
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/247

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] My first body w

2008-12-20 07:45:29

I've been told to be wary of massage therapists working on lymphedema, they
have not had the education required and could actually hurt more than help.
There really is nothing anyone can do, we have a physician here who is a
Physical Med and Rehab MD, he has over 800 cancer patients he see's, (that I
know of there are very few physicans who follow or even understand
lymphedema issues, unless they become life threatning with celliulitis) the
only recommendations he has is the wrapping and sleeve. Of course he has
never gone through the treatment, so he thinks it's easy, as far as pain
level it is easy, but the wrapping takes about 20 min. every AM, then you
can't really bend that arm easily, and you have to wear shirts that have
large sleeves, so it can all fit under there. Once you complete that you
are to wear the sleeve every day, with a gauntlet. It's also a pain.
Anyways I'll stop whining now, it's just a pain in the ass, so needless to
say, I don't follow the rules very well.
Hey, droning on like this has actually given me an idea. I think I'll start
wrapping soon, get it down to match the other arm (I hope), then get a new
sleeve to match the new size, wear it, so I don't just regrow, wait a few
months and do it all again. It will be a pain, but maybe I'll be able to
shrink it down a bit.
Thanks for letting me vent (like you had a choice, LOL), (well I guess you
could deleate :o)), but it's given me a good idea!!!!
Thanks,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] New Jersey

2008-12-20 05:42:29

I worked in Philly back then... didn't work in Cherry Hill until around 77 or
78.

Pat
--- On Mon, 4/28/08, lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
From: lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] New Jersey

New Jersey

2008-12-20 01:08:49

If that's true we could have been twins. I also had long brown hair
and weighed about 150. I am only 5'3" though. I worked in Cherry
Hill near the racetrack then.
Lizanne

Travis Pics

2008-12-19 12:12:40

Judy,
I just looked at Travis' Pics. He is just adorable. How are mom and
dad and grandma doing?
Lizanne

Ally's Wedding

2008-12-19 08:39:24

Well Ally,
You must be back, so why haven't we heard from you? Are you too
exhausted from your honeymoon? Are you too busy getting your pics
posted? Or are you just too beautiful for us now? LOL
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] East Coast Gathering

2008-12-19 01:11:49

Iinterested! need family friendly accomodations - Massachusetts
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Okay East Coasters....we had talked about having a central location
for us all to meet earlier, but we thought we would wait until summer
to follow through. Well summer is on its way. If we all got
together for the fourth of July, where should we meet? Whoever is
interested, reply to this message and state your state so we can get
a middle ground. I think we were talking about Atlantic City, NJ.
Is the fourth a good time?
Lizanne

Strawberry Cloud

2008-12-18 17:06:18

This has more sugar than you might want to tackle, but most of it is
natural sugar from fruit and soy. Since I have NO problem with
sugar, this sounds great to me.
Strawberry Cloud
PER SERVING (entire recipe): 119 calories, 1g fat, 102mg sodium, 21g
carbs, 2g fiber, 14g sugars, 4g protein -- POINTSŪ value 2*
Ingredients:
2/3 cup frozen strawberries (plain -- NOT in syrup!)
5 oz. light vanilla soymilk
2 tsp. Fat Free French Vanilla Coffee-mate powder (dissolved in an
oz. of warm water)
1 oz. Torani Sugar Free Strawberry Syrup
3 no-calorie sweetener packets (like Splenda)
3 large ice cubes
2 tbsp. Fat Free Reddi-wip
Directions:
Place all of the ingredients in a blender, except for the Reddi-wip.
Blend on high speed for 30 - 45 seconds. Pour, and top with the Reddi-
wip.

East Coast Gathering

2008-12-18 12:11:30

Okay East Coasters....we had talked about having a central location
for us all to meet earlier, but we thought we would wait until summer
to follow through. Well summer is on its way. If we all got
together for the fourth of July, where should we meet? Whoever is
interested, reply to this message and state your state so we can get
a middle ground. I think we were talking about Atlantic City, NJ.
Is the fourth a good time?
Lizanne

Re: i quit ---still

2008-12-18 09:25:42

San,
You sure have a lot on your shoulders. Prayer would be good if you
are a believer.
There may be one good thing that comes from your whining....usually
whining to the group causes you to lose weight. Did that happen? I
hope so. Let us know and do the best you can with what you have. I
know that sounds easy, but they say that worrying can't change
anything. I wish I could follow my own advice.
Lizanne

Re: surgery date:

2008-12-18 04:37:02

Prayers going up...here is for a speedy recovery and for protection
while in surgery and after. Let us know how things went...I am sure it
will go fine.
LaDetra

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] 2 veggie recipes with protein

2008-12-17 18:01:29

I saw this one last week and it makes me hungry. I have NEVER eaten butternut
squash and she seems to swear by it. I really need to try this as well as the
chili cheese fries. Have you cooked any of the recipies Lizanne? Are you
buying the cookbook? I was thinking about it.
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Bored with the same old sides? Check out these recipes -- they also
make great snacks and mini-meals!
HG's Cheesy Butternut Bake
PER SERVING (1/4th of casserole): 101 calories, 1g fat, 457mg sodium,
20g carbs, 3g fiber, 5g sugars, 4g protein -- POINTSŪ value 2*
This stuff is the ultimate guilt-free side dish. It tastes like
cheesy, fluffy, mashed sweet potatoes, only better!
Ingredients:
4 cups cubed butternut squash
2 wedges The Laughing Cow cheese, Light Original Swiss, room
temperature
3/4 cup diced onions
1/4 cup fat-free liquid egg substitute (like Egg Beaters Original)
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. chili powder
1/8 tsp. pepper
Directions:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
Place squash in large microwave-safe bowl with 1/4 cup of water.
Cover and microwave for 6 minutes. Once cool enough to handle,
uncover and drain water. Set aside.
Place onions in a small microwave-safe dish with 2 tbsp. water. Cover
and microwave for 3 minutes. Once cool enough to handle, uncover and
drain any excess water. Set aside.
Place squash and all other ingredients except for the onions in a
blender. (Make sure squash cubes are not still piping hot.) Pulse
until thoroughly mixed (but not liquefied). Remove blender from the
base, and then stir in the onions.
Transfer squash mixture to a small casserole dish sprayed with
nonstick spray. Place in the oven, and bake for 35 - 40 minutes
(until edges begin to brown). Then serve with a spoon as you would
mashed potatoes! Enjoy!
MAKES 4 SERVINGS
HG's Spinach, Mushroom and Mozzarella Supreme
PER SERVING (1/6th of casserole): 106 calories, 1g fat, 597mg sodium,
11g carbs, 3.5g fiber, 4g sugars, 8g protein -- POINTSŪ value 2*
A serving of this could quite possibly be the most satisfying 106
calories EVER...
Ingredients:
Two 16-oz. bags frozen chopped spinach, thawed, drained, and
thoroughly patted dry
1 1/2 cups canned sliced mushrooms (about 2 medium cans or 1 large),
drained
3 wedges The Laughing Cow cheese, any Light flavor, room temperature
1 cup diced onions
1/3 cup shredded fat-free mozzarella cheese
3/4 tsp. garlic powder
Optional: salt and pepper, to taste
Directions:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
In a pan sprayed with nonstick spray, cook onions over high heat
until browned (about 3 minutes).
Make sure all excess water has been removed from spinach. In a mixing
bowl, combine spinach, onions, cheese wedges, and garlic powder. Mix
well.
In a medium casserole dish sprayed with nonstick spray, spread half
of the spinach mixture along the bottom.
Layer half of the mushrooms evenly over the spinach mixture in the
casserole dish. Then spread the remaining spinach mixture over the
mushrooms. Layer the rest of the mushrooms over that.
Sprinkle the top of the casserole with the shredded cheese. Then
place dish in the oven to cook for 25 - 30 minutes (until the
shredded cheese layer begins to crisp slightly). If you like, season
your serving to taste with salt and pepper.
MAKES 6 SERVINGS
Lisa A
284/271/160/135 ~ 25# to go!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] alien removal

2008-12-17 10:20:08

Lizanne,
Most hospitals have those pull out chairs available. When you get to your
room if they dont have one in there, just ask for one. My mom stayed over night
w/ my little daughter the entire week that she was in after her kidney surgery
last June. They did not baulk once and were really great about making sure my
mom got food and everything.
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Lora,
You are right, I have everything arranged and I am not taking a
chance that I might get denied with another surgeon. That might be
dumb, but that's my plan. Also, if there is a problem after the
surgery where I will need the mesh, I am not going back to Johns
Hopkins or it's related surgeons. If I ever get my batwings removed,
I will not go to any of the surgeons from that scary hospital, I will
head east instead. (There are no hospitals near me, so no matter
where I go, I must travel).
I plan to talk my daughter into staying with me in the hospital if
possible for the day I will be recovering. My mom said she would if
my daughter can't. I don't know if that's allowed, but from my last
experiences with them, I am afraid to stay there without an
advocate. Yes, I am a chicken, but the last experience taught me not
to trust the people in the hospital to know what they are doing.
None of my nurses had my best interests in mind and I paid for their
lack of interest. Not again...I hope.
Lizanne

alien removal

2008-12-17 10:17:34

Lora,
You are right, I have everything arranged and I am not taking a
chance that I might get denied with another surgeon. That might be
dumb, but that's my plan. Also, if there is a problem after the
surgery where I will need the mesh, I am not going back to Johns
Hopkins or it's related surgeons. If I ever get my batwings removed,
I will not go to any of the surgeons from that scary hospital, I will
head east instead. (There are no hospitals near me, so no matter
where I go, I must travel).
I plan to talk my daughter into staying with me in the hospital if
possible for the day I will be recovering. My mom said she would if
my daughter can't. I don't know if that's allowed, but from my last
experiences with them, I am afraid to stay there without an
advocate. Yes, I am a chicken, but the last experience taught me not
to trust the people in the hospital to know what they are doing.
None of my nurses had my best interests in mind and I paid for their
lack of interest. Not again...I hope.
Lizanne

2 veggie recipes with protein

2008-12-17 02:40:52

Bored with the same old sides? Check out these recipes -- they also
make great snacks and mini-meals!
HG's Cheesy Butternut Bake
PER SERVING (1/4th of casserole): 101 calories, 1g fat, 457mg sodium,
20g carbs, 3g fiber, 5g sugars, 4g protein -- POINTSŪ value 2*
This stuff is the ultimate guilt-free side dish. It tastes like
cheesy, fluffy, mashed sweet potatoes, only better!
Ingredients:
4 cups cubed butternut squash
2 wedges The Laughing Cow cheese, Light Original Swiss, room
temperature
3/4 cup diced onions
1/4 cup fat-free liquid egg substitute (like Egg Beaters Original)
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. chili powder
1/8 tsp. pepper
Directions:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
Place squash in large microwave-safe bowl with 1/4 cup of water.
Cover and microwave for 6 minutes. Once cool enough to handle,
uncover and drain water. Set aside.
Place onions in a small microwave-safe dish with 2 tbsp. water. Cover
and microwave for 3 minutes. Once cool enough to handle, uncover and
drain any excess water. Set aside.
Place squash and all other ingredients except for the onions in a
blender. (Make sure squash cubes are not still piping hot.) Pulse
until thoroughly mixed (but not liquefied). Remove blender from the
base, and then stir in the onions.
Transfer squash mixture to a small casserole dish sprayed with
nonstick spray. Place in the oven, and bake for 35 - 40 minutes
(until edges begin to brown). Then serve with a spoon as you would
mashed potatoes! Enjoy!
MAKES 4 SERVINGS
HG's Spinach, Mushroom and Mozzarella Supreme
PER SERVING (1/6th of casserole): 106 calories, 1g fat, 597mg sodium,
11g carbs, 3.5g fiber, 4g sugars, 8g protein -- POINTSŪ value 2*
A serving of this could quite possibly be the most satisfying 106
calories EVER...
Ingredients:
Two 16-oz. bags frozen chopped spinach, thawed, drained, and
thoroughly patted dry
1 1/2 cups canned sliced mushrooms (about 2 medium cans or 1 large),
drained
3 wedges The Laughing Cow cheese, any Light flavor, room temperature
1 cup diced onions
1/3 cup shredded fat-free mozzarella cheese
3/4 tsp. garlic powder
Optional: salt and pepper, to taste
Directions:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
In a pan sprayed with nonstick spray, cook onions over high heat
until browned (about 3 minutes).
Make sure all excess water has been removed from spinach. In a mixing
bowl, combine spinach, onions, cheese wedges, and garlic powder. Mix
well.
In a medium casserole dish sprayed with nonstick spray, spread half
of the spinach mixture along the bottom.
Layer half of the mushrooms evenly over the spinach mixture in the
casserole dish. Then spread the remaining spinach mixture over the
mushrooms. Layer the rest of the mushrooms over that.
Sprinkle the top of the casserole with the shredded cheese. Then
place dish in the oven to cook for 25 - 30 minutes (until the
shredded cheese layer begins to crisp slightly). If you like, season
your serving to taste with salt and pepper.
MAKES 6 SERVINGS

Re: hairdresser did not recognize me!

2008-12-16 21:04:07

Lora,
That is so wonderful and so weird at the same time. I know what you
mean about not really feeling some things are compliments although
that's the way the giver intended. When others rave about my looks
it makes me feel like a hypocrit (can't spell today). I always felt
I was the same person...fat or less fat...so what's the big deal.
But now that I am losing weight, I do want people to notice and make
a comment. I am even disappointed if they don't.
I have this new hair style. One guy at work mentioned that my hair
was different, but no one else has said a word. And it is cute even
if I do say so myself. People at work suck anyway.
But I saw my mom this past week. She was shocked by how different I
look. I told her before I saw her that I had only (only?) lost about
20 lbs since I saw her last...and not to expect a big change. She
kept making cute remarks like...where did your butt go. She was also
shocked by my arms (batwings). She didn't remember my arms being so
LARGE in the first place (her words, not mine). I wore a bathing
suit and shorts in Florida. Even to places where she knows people (I
used to not want to embarrass her by wearing shorts where we might
see someone she knew). Plus, she loved the hair so that made me feel
good.
All in all it was fun to be thinner and have people notice, but it
also makes me feel a little like a trader to enjoy the compliments.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] new pics posted

2008-12-16 11:57:01

Cameras are evil Amy! I am sure that they put that 10 pounds in the most
unflattering of places! When I have some time, I will check out your shots
though - I am sure you see yourself completely different than we will!!!!
No one made any comments about my photos. I must look horrific! (I do look
pastey but that could be because I am wearing the gray sweater and it is a
draining color)
Lisa A
Your Secret Sister <vickisecretsister@...
I posted the two pics I mentioned in an earlier post to Pat. One of my
and my hubby and one of just me. . . at four weeks out. . . still can't figure
out why the pic doesn't look as good as the mirror made me look! LOL But be sure
to check out the pics if ya want. They were taken Saturday night.
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/247

new pics posted

2008-12-16 03:17:06

I posted the two pics I mentioned in an earlier post to Pat. One of my and my
hubby and one of just me. . . at four weeks out. . . still can't figure out why
the pic doesn't look as good as the mirror made me look! LOL But be sure to
check out the pics if ya want. They were taken Saturday night.
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/247

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Jesus and Satan

2008-12-16 00:26:22

cute!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW153**GW125-130

Re: Jesus and Satan

2008-12-15 21:47:09

lol...thanks for sharing. and thank goodness he does.
LaDetra

Vitamin Shoppe calcium citrate capsules

2008-12-15 18:14:26

Vitamin Shoppe has a calcium citrate capsule with Vit D and magnesium
added. It's a big capsule -- much thinner but a bit longer than the
petite Citracal tablets -- but capsules will dissolve much more quickly
than the tablets. They are currently having a buy-one-get-one-50%-
off. It's $16 for 300 capsules and each capsule is 333 mg.
I tried these one afternoon when I was having a grumpy pouch day and
the petites I took in the morning aggravated the situation... and the
capsules didn't bother me at all.
Lora
(3 pounds from Onederland and waiting very IMpatiently)

Jesus and Satan

2008-12-15 06:59:53

This is one of the best clean jokes I've seen in a while!
Jesus and Satan were having an on-going argument about who was better on the
computer. They had been going at it for days, and frankly God was tired of
hearing all the bickering.
Finally fed up, God said, 'THAT'S IT! I have had enough. I am going to set
up a test that will run for two hours, and from those results, I will judge
who does the better job.'
So Satan and Jesus sat down at the keyboards and typed away.
They moused.
They faxed.
They e-mailed.
They e-mailed with attachments.
They downloaded.
They did spreadsheets! They wrote r eports.
They created labels and cards.
They created charts and graphs.
They did some genealogy reports
They did every job known to man.
Jesus worked with heavenly efficiency and Satan was faster than hell.
Then, ten minutes before their time was up, lightning suddenly flashed
across the sky, thunder rolled, rain poured, and, of course, the power went
off..
Satan stared at his blank screen and screamed every curse word known in the
underworld.
Jesus just sighed.
Finally the electricity came back on, and each of them restarted their
computers. Satan started searching frantically, screaming:
'It's gone! It's all GONE! 'I lost everything when the power went out!'
Meanwhile, Jesus quietly started printing out all of his files from the past
two hours of work..
Satan observed this and became irate.
'Wait!' he screamed. 'That's not fair! He cheated! How come he has all his
work and I don't have any?'
God just shrugged and said,
JESUS SAVES
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Re: meeting for dinner

2008-12-14 23:41:21

It was suggested that we meet in Stockton because we have bay area people coming
as well .

meeting for dinner

2008-12-14 20:04:26

Val,
We dont have a Loser's bench (thats hard on the butt!!). . .We have a Loser's
LOUNGE w/ CABANA BOYS....cute ones too!!!! so after surgery you can sit back
and relax and take your pick LOL :)) and for the guys .. well we have cute
bikini clad ladies to wait on you!! Much better than a BENCH!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-14 17:12:34

17th is good for me. I'm in Elk Grove
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
17th is good for me. . i am coming from Redding area. ..
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] surgery date:

2008-12-14 05:50:52

WTG Melane!!!! ask any questions you might have although if you have been
lurking . .we have prob just about covered everything LOL keep us updated :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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surgery date:

2008-12-13 23:53:19

Looks like I will have my surgery Monday, the 28th. I have had my preop labs and
EKG.
Just have to make it until Monday. This is my 3rd try.
Melane

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] My first body wr

2008-12-13 20:06:45

Pat,
I've been through that, with PT's wrapping it, I've also been taught how to
do self message/drainage... I have a sleeve, I wear it when my arm
is bothering me, but not all the time (I know I'm bad), I've been through
all of that, but nothing really helps, nor lasts long. I know there is no
"cure", I'd just like to be able to keep my arm as small as possible, since
the other one is shrinking.
I'm just always on the look out for newer things to try, that won't hurt me.
Thanks,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] My first body wra

2008-12-13 15:58:43

Pat
I don't know if I'll ever get this done, but I do have a question for you to
ask him. Does he work on people with lymphedema?? I've been to a few
people who do lymphatic massage, but nothing has helped my lymphedema go
away (I know nothing will permanently). The reason I'm asking is because my
right arm is larger than my left, even though they are both getting smaller
the right is much slower at loosing and I worry that the stretched skin will
never bounce back as well as the left. I will never be a candidate for a
bat wing surgery so I'd like to find something that may help "shrink" the
skin to help it look and feel like the other side. And would I have to wrap
every 2-3 months for life???
Thanks,
Edie

meeting for dinner

2008-12-13 06:10:43

Maybe if we meet in ELk Grove or Galt??? A little more central then
Stockton. Lets take a vote..
How many can make it on the 17th?
Where will you be coming from?
Valeri
Lodi ready for the losers bench

meeting for dinner

2008-12-13 05:41:35

17th is good for me. . i am coming from Redding area. ..
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-12 21:48:46

i think me also. .
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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meeting for dinner

2008-12-12 16:31:54

i was raised in Hawaii .. so i love chinese food anytime. . hubby doesnt care
for it either .
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-12 08:06:07

I think Beth was talking about Sat the 17th of May. That will work for me.
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
I could handle that Debby .. not a problem. . if we plan for a weekend
.. let me know for sure guys .. that way even if i am on call ... hopefully i
can switch... and thanks again Debby. . your a sweetheart!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-11 23:16:39

Mexican food is my favorite, but other places are ok too. I don't like Chinese
though never did. Maybe it's because I really dislike veggies.
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
BTW i love chinese food too . .War Won Ton soup is awesome and beef
broccolli. . cashew chicken is good. . i stay away from the fried rice and chow
mein. . but i can eat anywhere. . i even had lunch at Olive Garden the other day
and had the Zupa something or other which is a sausage potato soup w/ salad. .
no prob at all
Seafood places are good. . im getting excited now!!! And Mexican food sits good
too!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-11 19:49:06

I could handle that Debby .. not a problem. . if we plan for a weekend .. let me
know for sure guys .. that way even if i am on call ... hopefully i can
switch... and thanks again Debby. . your a sweetheart!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-11 18:24:01

BTW i love chinese food too . .War Won Ton soup is awesome and beef broccolli. .
cashew chicken is good. . i stay away from the fried rice and chow mein. . but i
can eat anywhere. . i even had lunch at Olive Garden the other day and had the
Zupa something or other which is a sausage potato soup w/ salad. . no prob at
all
Seafood places are good. . im getting excited now!!! And Mexican food sits good
too!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-11 08:01:29

Sharon,
We are cheap dates. We could even split a meal so really you only have to get
the time off and spend the gas money :(
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
Debby,
Wow that is so sweet. . if it all works out i might just take you up on that. .
money is tight every where and we are both cheap eaters huh? LOL
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-10 22:49:03

Debby,
Wow that is so sweet. . if it all works out i might just take you up on that. .
money is tight every where and we are both cheap eaters huh? LOL
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-10 22:02:58

Sharon,
Yeah! another pound gone. Sharon if you can stay the night I would love to
have you stay with me so you don't have a long drive home after dinner. I don't
have an extra bedroom but my husband works nights and won't be here so if you
don't mind sharing a room I'd love to have you.
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
I will try for sure but i wish you guys would make it closer to
Sacramento... if i drive to Stockton its even farther away...BTW i woke up again
today lighter!!! 1 more bites the dust!!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-10 13:25:33

I will try for sure but i wish you guys would make it closer to Sacramento... if
i drive to Stockton its even farther away...BTW i woke up again today
lighter!!! 1 more bites the dust!!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW154**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-10 07:46:12

Sharon,
I hope you can come. I would love to meet you. I understand about bills
though. :(((
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
I want to come down and see you all so bad. . i just hope that we can
work it out. . Im sorry about my difficult schedule. . unless someone wants to
volunteer to pay my bills. . LOL i have no choice :((
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW155**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] My first body wrap

2008-12-10 03:37:32

Never had that done before but it is something I have thought about. Would you
do this again?
Theresa in GA
"pat.0913" <pat.0913@...
These are not for the modest! LOL
I had no idea what to expect... and I guess I still don't. There are
different methods, and he is going to alternate... so next time will
be different.
You get to wear lovely fashion statement paper bra and panties, which
I guess are meant to give you some false sense of modesty because
they sure don't hide much!
He started with my legs... coating them with some kind of blue "mud"
and then wrapped them with plastic that looked like rolls of saran
wrap, but he said it wasn't saran wrap. Then I had to stand up to
have my torso slathered in mud and wrapped, and then laid back down
to have my arms done. Then he covered me with a sheet and put an
electric heating pad over my body, followed by heavy blankets. I
stayed like that for about an hour. Then I showered off and he
massaged some kind of cream into my skin.
Next time (Thurs) he is going to use fabric that has been soaked in
some kind of chemicals.
Pat

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Hi ladies and meeting in Stockton

2008-12-09 19:50:25

Paula,
Of coarse you are included. Congratulations on losing over 100 pounds! I
can't wait until I get there.
Debby
blessedmorelosfamily <qfforjesus@...
I have been lurking recently because my email is messing up and I can

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Attention Northern Ca Division of this Group

2008-12-09 14:45:42

Beth,
I'm in. My first choice would be El Torito's since I love mexican food.
Debby
Beth <beth_loveslife@...
Come ONE and all to the first Meeting of our Northern CA Division on
Saturday May 17th -- I am thinking an early dinner so those of you
who are traveling wont have to get home too late... Somewhere
between 4-5pm.
If we are going to do it here is Stockton here are some choices. For
us that haven't yet had surgery it won't really matter where we go
but you that have had surgery it will matter so we will leave the
choice up to you. I was thinking probably the best all round
restaurant would be
1. Marie Callendars because it has a soup and salad bar, and a pretty
good all round menu and a childs menu. They also have space for a
larger group to meet in the back of the restaurant
2. El Toritos -- They have an al a carte menu for mexican food plus
lots of combination plates this restaurant is also pretty open for
larger groups and has a childs menu
3. there is a Black angus in the vicinty -- more pricey, more
secluded dining spaces, has a salad bar,
the above are all off 1-5 at March lane... there is also a spaghetti
factory there but menu is pretty restricted to just pasta dishes.
Mariott Courtyards and La Quinta Motels are also there. I would NOT
recommend staying any further south in Stockton.
4. Strings is a nice Italian restaurant off I-5 and 8 mile road they
have a great minestrone soup, salad and various Italian dishes. I
could live on just their meatballs alone..
Just north of 8 mile road is truck stop that has all kinds of fast
food places and gas stations and there is a really nice motel that is
very reasonable called Micro tel and they also just built another new
one there and I cant think of its name...
Any way, let me know #1 if you can come and #2 what your choice of
restaurant would be and we will go with the groups choice...
Beth
This is a bring a hubby / date / older child event as well

Hi ladies and meeting in Stockton

2008-12-09 06:21:17

I have been lurking recently because my email is messing up and I can

Attention Northern Ca Division of this Group

2008-12-09 04:19:42

Come ONE and all to the first Meeting of our Northern CA Division on
Saturday May 17th -- I am thinking an early dinner so those of you
who are traveling wont have to get home too late... Somewhere
between 4-5pm.
If we are going to do it here is Stockton here are some choices. For
us that haven't yet had surgery it won't really matter where we go
but you that have had surgery it will matter so we will leave the
choice up to you. I was thinking probably the best all round
restaurant would be
1. Marie Callendars because it has a soup and salad bar, and a pretty
good all round menu and a childs menu. They also have space for a
larger group to meet in the back of the restaurant
2. El Toritos -- They have an al a carte menu for mexican food plus
lots of combination plates this restaurant is also pretty open for
larger groups and has a childs menu
3. there is a Black angus in the vicinty -- more pricey, more
secluded dining spaces, has a salad bar,
the above are all off 1-5 at March lane... there is also a spaghetti
factory there but menu is pretty restricted to just pasta dishes.
Mariott Courtyards and La Quinta Motels are also there. I would NOT
recommend staying any further south in Stockton.
4. Strings is a nice Italian restaurant off I-5 and 8 mile road they
have a great minestrone soup, salad and various Italian dishes. I
could live on just their meatballs alone..
Just north of 8 mile road is truck stop that has all kinds of fast
food places and gas stations and there is a really nice motel that is
very reasonable called Micro tel and they also just built another new
one there and I cant think of its name...
Any way, let me know #1 if you can come and #2 what your choice of
restaurant would be and we will go with the groups choice...
Beth
This is a bring a hubby / date / older child event as well

meeting for dinner

2008-12-08 20:30:30

I want to come down and see you all so bad. . i just hope that we can work it
out. . Im sorry about my difficult schedule. . unless someone wants to volunteer
to pay my bills. . LOL i have no choice :((
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW155**GW125-130

My first body wrap

2008-12-08 15:08:47

These are not for the modest! LOL
I had no idea what to expect... and I guess I still don't. There are
different methods, and he is going to alternate... so next time will
be different.
You get to wear lovely fashion statement paper bra and panties, which
I guess are meant to give you some false sense of modesty because
they sure don't hide much!
He started with my legs... coating them with some kind of blue "mud"
and then wrapped them with plastic that looked like rolls of saran
wrap, but he said it wasn't saran wrap. Then I had to stand up to
have my torso slathered in mud and wrapped, and then laid back down
to have my arms done. Then he covered me with a sheet and put an
electric heating pad over my body, followed by heavy blankets. I
stayed like that for about an hour. Then I showered off and he
massaged some kind of cream into my skin.
Next time (Thurs) he is going to use fabric that has been soaked in
some kind of chemicals.
Pat

meeting for dinner

2008-12-08 12:46:38

Well i dont want to hold up any gathering. . I work anywere from 40-50 hrs a
week during the week .. I am at this time on call every other weekend but that
will change soon as i will be actually rotating weeks instead of weekends. . I
have to work when i can as Cal does not have a job and I dont have PTO . . im an
independent contractor so when i dont work, we dont get paid .. i am on call
this weekend.... and will be off next weekend. . If i can come on a fri on a
week that i am not on call, that would be good. . I will prob start the week on
/ week off after the first wed of the month as we are going to tell the staff in
the inservice about the change in on call. . Now i can ask the other nurse to
cover for me if she isnt doing anything. . as i have covered for her many times
and I havent asked anything except when i had my surgery. .So let me know. . Im
sorry im so difficult but if i didnt have this job. . we would be living in our
Motorhome .. thats the truth. .
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW155**GW125-130

meeting for dinner

2008-12-07 21:00:28

This coming week, I m NOT available, hair and nails LOL
Friday, I am going to Aptos for a weekend of scrapbooking. So... after
May 4th would be good for me.
It will probably be difficult to get eveyone the same night. If I
cannot make it, then I shall look forward to the next one.
This is so coooolllllll to finally be in the official plaanning
stages of the surgery. I want to be a LOSER!!!
Valeri
waiting for the call in Lodi

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] for members age 50&#43;

2008-12-07 17:48:42

San... I also met her and invited her to this group! I hope she joins :) I
told her there were a lot of women in their 50s here... and even some 60s

Pat
--- On Sat, 4/26/08, Ameera Salihah <a_salihah@...
From: Ameera Salihah <a_salihah@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] for members age 50+

meeting for dinner

2008-12-07 16:24:18

Molly,
We must live close. I am just off Laguna Blvd. Can't wait to meet everyone
for dinner.
Debby
mcdeek <mcdeek@...
hi all...
i am in the franklin area of elk grove.
i am happy to get together for dinner. i am free most weeknights and
would a get together.
Great places are Mikuni, Kintaro, (both sushi), Paesano's
(italian)...all in Elk Grove...i am also happy to go to Lodi, or galt
or even Sac.
i probably won't be able to check my email much this weekend so if you
don't hear from me right off i will respond beginning of the week.
cheers,
molly

meeting for dinner

2008-12-07 02:54:11

Sharon,
You are driving the farthest. What day is good for you? I am busy next
weekend and 5/16 but any other time is good for me. Weekdays are okay too.
Debby
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
I will be on call may 10th . .im on call this weekend and every other
weekend...
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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HW242**SW232**CW156**GW125-130

for members age 50&#43;

2008-12-07 02:49:12

Hi, I *met* a woman in another group who is looking for people in her age
group---she seems like a great lady and needs some support in deciding to have
the surgery. I suggested she join the group or that I'd be willing to reach out
to you lovely 50+ ladies. So if you can help encourage her, I am sure she will
be forever grateful. Her email address is: victoriab7@...

meeting for dinner

2008-12-07 00:39:56

Your never left out Lora!!. . hop in the car now .. you can be here by next
weekend!!!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Message for Everyone but Judy ( Don't peek Judy!!!)

2008-12-06 13:10:30

Well i hope that you guys decide to meet on a weekend i can drive down. . i
think the Shower is a great idea. .. :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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meeting for dinner

2008-12-06 07:06:04

It could be worse, Sharon... you could be in the midwest! We get left
out of everything!
Lora

happy dance

2008-12-06 01:53:27

My live support group had a clothing sale today. Everything was $1. I got 3
pairs of jeans, a pair of khakis and a tshirt for $5. I had to buy the next size
down because someone said the size I had looked too big. I'm down to a 20 from a
28. The tshirt is a 1x, and I used to wear a 3x. I'm so excited.
Pauleen

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] happy dance

2008-12-05 21:40:47

Good for you Pauleen
San, 35, Single
No Kids - Waukegan, IL
Far North 'burb of Chgo
Lap RNY 08.28.07
Highest Weight: 370
Surgery Weight: 370
Current Weight: 275!!
Goal Weight: 150

Message for Everyone but Judy ( Don't peek Judy!!!)

2008-12-05 10:58:08

Hey, all the rest of you Northern CA gals when we meet for dinner we
should throw Judy a "Grandma baby shower" after all she is a first time
grandma.. hmmmm just an idea that popped into my random thinking
head....we all know shower means presents so they could be presents for
Travis or for Grandma like a brag book... and any of the rest of you
that would like to participate could email me for my address and I
would be happy to pass them on to Judy. This is all strictly voluntary
so don't feel bad if you can't participate.
Beth

Travis pictures

2008-12-05 05:03:31

Hi everyone. I finally made it home. I've been up for 21 hours but I
had to get the pics all together and download for you guys and for the
mommys family. so they are on our site waiting for approval.
tomorrow i am going on my date and then my grandbaby should be home
when I get here :) how blessed is my life? my son was crying on the way
home because he wanted to be with brittany and his son but Kaiser
doesn't allow the dad to stay over because they have patients doubled
up in room. so its sad but she'll be home tomorrow. anyway thank you
all for your well wishes. good night, Judy

Re: OT my grandbaby

2008-12-05 03:17:56

Congratulations granma!!! That is awesome news!! That baby is gonna
be spoiled..I can tell. Again...congrats to you guyz..how is the mom
doing??
LaDetra