Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] Shorts

2008-09-30 11:59:58

LOL Lizanne! I am not sure I will be wearing shorts. I am thinking about lots
and lots of long empire waist dresses or capris. My legs are really icky and my
butt droops so badly that it needs a complete coverup. the nice thing about my
new body is that everything is symmetrical - my boobs and my butt both hang
without purpose now and really reinforce that "you look like a guy" thing. I
dont think people need anymore things to look at to have a rousing conversation
about me over the dining room table!
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Sharon,
I have not worn shorts in a very long time. I have huge knobby
knees. And I have cankles (I have no ankles, my calf starts at my
feet). But I have worked hard to tone this floppy body and I am
going to wear shorts this summer. I am just going to pretend I have
jeans on, I haven't even worn capris.....ever, except when they were
called pedal pushers when I was a kid. I deserve shorts even if my
legs aren't attractive. At least it'll give some people something to
talk about over the diningroom table.
Lizanne

Shorts

2008-09-30 03:00:46

Sharon,
I have not worn shorts in a very long time. I have huge knobby
knees. And I have cankles (I have no ankles, my calf starts at my
feet). But I have worked hard to tone this floppy body and I am
going to wear shorts this summer. I am just going to pretend I have
jeans on, I haven't even worn capris.....ever, except when they were
called pedal pushers when I was a kid. I deserve shorts even if my
legs aren't attractive. At least it'll give some people something to
talk about over the diningroom table.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Dating messages

2008-09-30 01:37:45

Very strange....but be glad he is gone. . ...have fun on Bart and going to SF!!!
I havent been there in a while. . need to do that. . My son works there every
day . I have no excuses. . except MONEY!!! LOL
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW159**GW125-130

Dating messages

2008-09-29 18:12:09

Judy,
Generally that means he has been banned from the site. Some people
set up standard emails that they send out to everyone they think
might be a target. I have seen them before. There must have been
some problem that another member reported and he was banned. Be glad
he didn't get you involved. You found a good guy anyway so you
certainly don't need his type.
Lizanne

Re: Prayers for Bonnie

2008-09-29 14:25:33

Bonnie,
I said the prayers and will think of you both all day. I am so sorry
this is happening and if there is anything you could use, just let me
know.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Goodbye My Friend - Bonnie!

2008-09-29 05:41:13

Bonnie.... I've missed a few of your posts in the past few days... stop with the
viruses already!!! Sheeeesh!!! ;Ž

Pat
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, BONNIE <brogers@...
From: BONNIE <brogers@...
Subject: Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] Goodbye My Friend

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Prayers for Bonni

2008-09-28 22:22:04

I've sent a prayer up for John.
Good luck,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Down a siz

2008-09-28 16:53:00

Great job Pat,
Isn't it wonderful!!!
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] plastic surgery update..

2008-09-28 14:28:18

Theresa,
I'm glad to hear your doing so well. You really are an inspiration. It' s
so nice to hear someone coming through this with minimal pain. I know ps is
in my future and until you I was a bit scared. Thanks for educating all of
us.
Edie
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Theresa Rodriguez <trodri9302@...

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] email

2008-09-28 03:27:48

Same here. I've only had an issue or two, but before this past week I've
never had one kicked back.
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Prayers for Bonnie

2008-09-28 02:54:30

Oh Bonnie sweetie, I am so sorry John is ill. You've been to happy and looking
forward to so much, he's gonna make it. He can't miss all that loving! We need
to start a prayer chain and get him up and home. Have faith Bonnie, you two
have too much ahead of you. please let us know how he's doing as soon as you
can. Remember to take care of yourself, eat, drink and take your meds, you
won't be able to care for him if you get sick.
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Prayers for Bonnie

2008-09-27 15:08:16

I just wanted you all to know that my darling John was hospitalized with
chest pains today. He also had pain in his left arm. He has had episodes
of this before and has had 3 stents put in his heart because of it. I am
praying that the stents are still good and nothing else has developed.
I just left him and he is still in the ER and they are trying to find him a
bed in the CCU. He is pain free right now and looking a little better. But
I am still worried sick about him. I can't stop crying. He sent me home
because I was exhausted from the stress of being there all day. I do hope
they take good care of him for me. I told him before I left that I couldn't
understand how his heart was so fragile when It was so full of love and
kindness.
I would love it if you guys would say a little prayer for him tonight.
Sorry I am not up to reading posts tonight. Please let Kelli know I am
thinking of her and her big day tomorrow.
Bonnie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] need to go crawl into a hole

2008-09-27 09:03:15

Lora,
Hanging skin is still better than the fat was. You have accomplished so much
and will be a healthier person for it. Maybe down the road when you have a new
job plastic surgery may still be an option for you. Don't crawl in a hole! We
care about you and want to know how you are doing. Even if you can't read the
posts just post yourself and let us know how you are. I am so sorry this is
happening to you. (((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))
Debby
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I saw my PCP, my therapist, and then my surgeon today. My PCP will
write a letter of medical necessity for the panni removal after seeign
ym current rash, but it's probably a waste of time since mt RNY
surgeon had only one suggestion for someone who might be willing to
accept insurance (when I called they said he will submit to insurance
but is out of network and wants paid full-fee up front, too). She can
do the hernia repair by the end of May but I'm going to be stuck
FOREVER with a panni and mons that hang 4 inches (4 $#@!%^ inches!!!!)
down below my pubic bone. But it's my own damn fault for gaining so
much %$#!& weight, so I have only myself to blame. I don't know why I
expected to find a plastic surgeon who would actually CARE about
helping me. I should have known it was all about the money, not about
helping people. I should have kept the fat body. At least I just
looked FAT instead of like a freak of nature with huge bulges where
they don't belong and get in the way of everything I do.
No matter how much I remind myself that how much someone else has lost
(or how quickly or slowly they lost it) doesn't change my life in any
way, right now I cannot take reading any more messages about how
quickly others are losing weight or sizes. I truly WANT to be happy
for everyone but right now it just hurts too much and I feel like a
bitch for not being able to be happy for the rest of you. I can't be
supportive right now, so I'm going to go try to find a hole to crawl
into and hope this passes quickly.
I'm sorry that I can't just shake this off.
Lora

need to go crawl into a hole

2008-09-27 04:16:38

I saw my PCP, my therapist, and then my surgeon today. My PCP will
write a letter of medical necessity for the panni removal after seeign
ym current rash, but it's probably a waste of time since mt RNY
surgeon had only one suggestion for someone who might be willing to
accept insurance (when I called they said he will submit to insurance
but is out of network and wants paid full-fee up front, too). She can
do the hernia repair by the end of May but I'm going to be stuck
FOREVER with a panni and mons that hang 4 inches (4 $#@!%^ inches!!!!)
down below my pubic bone. But it's my own damn fault for gaining so
much %$#!& weight, so I have only myself to blame. I don't know why I
expected to find a plastic surgeon who would actually CARE about
helping me. I should have known it was all about the money, not about
helping people. I should have kept the fat body. At least I just
looked FAT instead of like a freak of nature with huge bulges where
they don't belong and get in the way of everything I do.
No matter how much I remind myself that how much someone else has lost
(or how quickly or slowly they lost it) doesn't change my life in any
way, right now I cannot take reading any more messages about how
quickly others are losing weight or sizes. I truly WANT to be happy
for everyone but right now it just hurts too much and I feel like a
bitch for not being able to be happy for the rest of you. I can't be
supportive right now, so I'm going to go try to find a hole to crawl
into and hope this passes quickly.
I'm sorry that I can't just shake this off.
Lora

Re: plastic surgery update...

2008-09-27 04:06:12

Theresa,
Thank you for keeping us updated. Still no pain...that's great.
Have you been eating properly? I am just wondering how the "diet" is
going because after my PS I still will have weight to lose. Have you
noticed any changes that make it harder or easier to behave after
surgery?
Lizanne

Re: Down a size

2008-09-26 22:04:53

Lora,
When I was 70 lbs from goal, I still wore some size 18. I just
stopped wearing them this weekend. I put them in the donation box
and I weigh 168. It may be the alien that is keeping us from
dropping sizes. I have only dropped one size in panties. How can
that be? We are all different in our bodies and our comfort zones.
That's what makes this so interesting, although at times, very hard.
So look on the bright side, when was the last time you fit into size
18/20? Isn't that amazing in itself?
Lizanne
251/168/125

plastic surgery update...

2008-09-26 12:55:34

Hi everyone!
I just returned from my 1st week post-op visit with my plastic surgeon. I
am healing very well. The swelling around the flank area has gone down quite a
bit but the bruises are still around and will be for some time. The drain tubes
are still in and will come out in several weeks. I feel no pain. Only pain I
deal with is when I either sneeze or cough. My stomach area is healing nicely
as well. Just thought I would catch everyone up. Have a great day!
Theresa in GA

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] plastic surgery update...

2008-09-26 09:46:27

Great news Theresa! Hopefully plastics are in my future, so I am living
vicariously through you :)

Pat
--- On Tue, 4/8/08, Theresa Rodriguez <trodri9302@...
From: Theresa Rodriguez <trodri9302@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] plastic surgery update...

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] virtual weight loss model

2008-09-26 05:15:34

check out this google gadget. you can put starting weight, current and goal and
see the model shrink
http://cosmetic-makeovers.com/2006/09/21/a-virtual-model-for-weight-loss

Judy -- 20 DAYS and COUNTING!!!
262/234
HW/CW
MY WLS BLOG: http://judywlsjourney.blogspot.com/

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Chicken salad recipe

2008-09-25 17:07:46

I saw this on HG Lizanne. I already so something simular to this...it is really
delicious!!!! Just make sure that you peel those cucumbers or use English
seedless ones. Also, I use Greek plain yogurt....it has the creaminess of Mayo
but is a bunch better for you. :)
Lisa A
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
I noticed the sugar is a little high in this recipe. It's from the
grapes, apple and cucumber. If you are sensitive to these sugars,
keep that in mind. Also, I noticed there are no nuts in this recipe
for waldorf salad. I would add some, but not too many. This salad
sounds crunchy and summery...
Dozens of fat grams in chicken salad = bad news. Crunchy cucumbers,
red grapes, and yogurt dressing on the other hand = GREAT additions.
Here's HG's guilt-free answer to the notoriously fattening Waldorf
chicken salad...
Ingredients:
1 cup (about 4.5 oz.) cooked & roughly chopped skinless lean chicken
breast
1/2 cup chopped Persian or Kirby cucumber**
1/3 cup red seedless grapes, halved
1/3 cup chopped apple
1/4 cup plain fat-free yogurt
2 tbsp. fat-free mayonnaise
1 no-calorie sweetener packet (like Splenda)
1/4 tsp. lemon pepper seasoning
dash salt
Directions:
Mix together the yogurt, mayonnaise, sweetener, lemon pepper
seasoning, and salt. Coat the chicken in this mixture, and then stir
in the chopped cucumber, grape halves, and chopped apple. Then try
not to pass out as you chow down on this insanely good chicken salad!
MAKES 2 SERVINGS
HG Tip! If cooking your chicken from scratch, use nonstick spray (not
oil) to keep the fat count down.
**These short, sweet cucumbers rule in this recipe! But if you can't
find 'em, any cucumber will do.
Serving Size: half of recipe (about 1 cup)
Calories: 145
Fat: 1.5g
Sodium: 332mg
Carbs: 14g
Fiber: 1g
Sugars: 10g
Protein: 21g
POINTS® value 3*
Lisa A
284/271/160/135 ~ 25# to go!

Re:Please welcome new member Heidi!!

2008-09-25 11:19:09

Welcome to the group Heidi, I never thought this would happen on her, but you
and I are sisters we share the same birthdate except that I am way older than
you by 12 years.. and lucky you, you are already a grandma.. However, ONE AND
ALL I just found out this weekend I am finally going to be a GRANDMA in time for
CHRISTMAS.... we are all so excited!!! Now if I could just lose the weight so I
can get the surgery,,, its just one thing after the other preventing me from
doing it...I am just so discouraged... have an appt with new pc doc fri so I am
hoping she can help me turn things around.
Beth

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Re:Please welcome new member Heidi!!

2008-09-25 09:09:20

Beth congrats isn't it exciting. I am on baby alert right now I can't even
believe its real. I have 2 babies coming this year to make me grandma. As for
losing the weight I hear you I am struggling too hv 3 lbs to go to pre surgery
goal. Don't give up, it is hard but us grandmas are FIERCE and we can do it!
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Down a size

2008-09-24 22:54:26

yay!!!! way to go, Pat! must be an amazing feeling! i cannot wait until i need
to drop a size.
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/261

Down a size

2008-09-24 17:03:11

Everyone at work has been teasing me about my "rapper pants" because my
scrubs got soooo baggy. Today I am wearing the next size down!! I had
already gone down a size on jeans, and my new ones are already baggy on
me. My weight started going down slower, but I seem to be losing
inches. :)
Pat

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] 4 pounds to go

2008-09-24 15:27:57

Thats AMAZING Mindy . . and all I could think was.....what a cute little name
for such a Tall woman!!! Good luck w/ the remaining 30lbs and Im sure you will
make it :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW159**GW125-130

4 pounds to go

2008-09-24 12:02:00

4 pounds to go to hit my 100 lb weight loss. I weighed his morning and
I am at 215 from 311 that I was at before surgery I had on Dec 6 2007.
I have about 30 more to go to get at my ideal weight for someone like
me who is 6 ft tall and big boned. I am so excited just wondering how I
lost it all so fast. :)

Chicken salad recipe

2008-09-23 22:30:37

I noticed the sugar is a little high in this recipe. It's from the
grapes, apple and cucumber. If you are sensitive to these sugars,
keep that in mind. Also, I noticed there are no nuts in this recipe
for waldorf salad. I would add some, but not too many. This salad
sounds crunchy and summery...
Dozens of fat grams in chicken salad = bad news. Crunchy cucumbers,
red grapes, and yogurt dressing on the other hand = GREAT additions.
Here's HG's guilt-free answer to the notoriously fattening Waldorf
chicken salad...
Ingredients:
1 cup (about 4.5 oz.) cooked & roughly chopped skinless lean chicken
breast
1/2 cup chopped Persian or Kirby cucumber**
1/3 cup red seedless grapes, halved
1/3 cup chopped apple
1/4 cup plain fat-free yogurt
2 tbsp. fat-free mayonnaise
1 no-calorie sweetener packet (like Splenda)
1/4 tsp. lemon pepper seasoning
dash salt
Directions:
Mix together the yogurt, mayonnaise, sweetener, lemon pepper
seasoning, and salt. Coat the chicken in this mixture, and then stir
in the chopped cucumber, grape halves, and chopped apple. Then try
not to pass out as you chow down on this insanely good chicken salad!
MAKES 2 SERVINGS
HG Tip! If cooking your chicken from scratch, use nonstick spray (not
oil) to keep the fat count down.
**These short, sweet cucumbers rule in this recipe! But if you can't
find 'em, any cucumber will do.
Serving Size: half of recipe (about 1 cup)
Calories: 145
Fat: 1.5g
Sodium: 332mg
Carbs: 14g
Fiber: 1g
Sugars: 10g
Protein: 21g
POINTS® value 3*

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Tiffanie's New Haircut

2008-09-23 15:26:09

Thanks, Lizanne!! It was a stretch for me!
While I don't have hanging skin or anything, I can defintely tell that I was
obese. Others say they don't see it but I have a ton of toning up to do.
I have not lost any weight in about 4 to 6 weeks but the loss is in inches. I
am not discouraged because I am much more interested in toning up at this point.
It is hard though because time seems to be so scarce. Especially since we are
trying to get our stuff moved to GA. The moving companies have been a night
mare. They are supposed to come on Thursday but I have feeling that they are not
going to show up...like the last moving company that didn't show up. I have a
feeling that we are going to end up moving our stuff ourselves.
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Tiffanie,
I just looked at your new photo. That new haircut makes you look
great!!! Not only that, but I can't see where there is anything about
you, skin, etc. that suggests you were ever overweight. You were just
wearing a fat suit before surgery...right? You do look great and I
love the new do.
Lizanne
Open RNY 8/17/07
251/168/125
Tiffanie in PA/GA
277/168/155
RNY 8/1/2007

Tiffanie's New Haircut

2008-09-23 13:46:55

Tiffanie,
I just looked at your new photo. That new haircut makes you look
great!!! Not only that, but I can't see where there is anything about
you, skin, etc. that suggests you were ever overweight. You were just
wearing a fat suit before surgery...right? You do look great and I
love the new do.
Lizanne
Open RNY 8/17/07
251/168/125

[WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Dry hair?

2008-09-23 02:45:43

Hope it helps Bonnie :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW148**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] emails

2008-09-22 21:36:38

does anyone else have issues when they send someone a private email, or are mine
being received and ignored. I know sometimes emails go to spam or junk folder
and can be missed, I hope it's that and not that people aren't answering me
(although that would be fine too, I understand) just wondering.
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] cute

2008-09-22 15:20:13

LOL!!!! That is hilarious Bonnie! I love that story.
Lisa A
Bonnie Rogers <brogers@...
My little niece, Kelly, went with a neighbor girl to church
For First Communion practice. The pastor has the children
Cup their hands, and when he gives them the "Host," in this
Case, a piece of bread, he says, "God be with you."
Apparently this made quite an impression on my niece. She
Came home and told her mother to cup her hands and bend
Down. Kelly took a piece of bread from her sandwich, placed
It in her mother's hands, and whispered, in her most angelic
Voice, "God will get you."

Lisa A
284/271/160/135 ~ 25# to go!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] my date

2008-09-22 14:40:43

HOLA people! well my date went great. at least i thought so but I haven't heard
from him since last night so now i'm wondering :( I met him at the restaurant at
2:00, we had a good lunch, talked and laughed. then we left there and went to
movies. even that was funny, had issues with the ticket machine and we were
laughing trying to get the tickets. during movie we talked and made comments and
giggled. etc. nothing bad or illicit. after movie we went over to the Starbucks
coffee which is right near theatre. he brought his laptop so we could hang out,
do some web searching and share some sites. we were at starbucks for 3 hours!
so a total of 6 hours hanging out. he made several compliments, he again said
that I didn't look heavy enough to have the surgery and he hoped i didn't get
too skinny cause sometimes people lose too much weight. during the meal he
mentioned he was glad I lived near San Francisco cause now he had someone to go
with, during movie we
watched previews and he said we needed to see this movie coming out. so anyway,
he seemed nice, it was a great day but like I said he hasn't called yet, so who
knows. I'm not going to call him, nope, when we parted he said he had alot of
fun and that he would call me (yeah I know the "I'll call you line). I did enjoy
myself and would be willing to see him again but if it doesn't work out then
thats okay too. I'd rather go on a date and have it end at the first date
instead months down the line when there is more attachment. I'll keep you
posted.
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Amy--bread at one week out?

2008-09-22 10:55:37

Pat,
When I went in Friday to get my staples removed, they told me they were gonna be
adding a couple foods to my diet. . . .. cottage cheese, one scrambled egg (made
with Pam and NO BUTTER and salt and pepper), and one slice dry wheat toast. . .
. So that is why I tried toast. I had to even go buy the wheat bread. I
usually don't eat wheat bread. I like the 100% multi-grain bread with all the
little pieces of grain in it. . . . but evidently, those little pieces are not
good for us. . I guess they get stuck or something. .
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/261

PPO surgeons cannot FORCE you to pay full fee if "medically necessary"

2008-09-22 01:54:30

I still think it's odd that Aetna will allow them to treat you like that,
then get the reimbursement. But like I said, I've never worked ps, so I
don't know all the in's and outs of that speciality.
Good luck,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] This is so tru

2008-09-21 20:12:24

Thanks for the laugh :o)
Edie
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:32 PM, lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...

Re: Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-21 17:56:02

Lora, I wish I had the magic words to help you... but all I can offer
is just huge *HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGS*. If there's anything any one
of us can do to help you, please let me know.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/173/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

cute

2008-09-21 08:11:36

My little niece, Kelly, went with a neighbor girl to church
For First Communion practice. The pastor has the children
Cup their hands, and when he gives them the "Host," in this
Case, a piece of bread, he says, "God be with you."
Apparently this made quite an impression on my niece. She
Came home and told her mother to cup her hands and bend
Down. Kelly took a piece of bread from her sandwich, placed
It in her mother's hands, and whispered, in her most angelic
Voice, "God will get you."

Re: Molly's success

2008-09-21 07:14:47

Thanks Lizanne for your kind words and support. This group has been an
essential part of my success and I am so blessed to be part of this
community.
cheers to you!
molly

Molly's success

2008-09-20 17:16:00

Molly,
Congratulations for making your doctor required goal. That's
wonderful. And I see that you did it in less than a year. Some of
our members have made such great strides by using this tool we were
lucky enough to have. I hope you lose those extra 10 - 15 lbs to
make your goal in the next few months.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] trying to be positive

2008-09-20 14:41:08

That is great Lora. You have to look at every tiny positive as a positive step.
:)
I went out for a salad one day not too long ago. It was a fairly expensive
salad and when I received it, I was so upset because it was tiny. After a
heated internal debate with myself I had to laugh at my reaction because I knew
that even on a super hungry day there was still no way that I would be able to
finish what was in front of me....It is hard to get past that "serving size"
issue. Just thought I would share.
Lisa A
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I'm trying to find and focus on some positive things today. Not being
terribly successful, but nevertheless...
I noticed at lunch today that my brain seems to have adjusted to what
is a meal for me. I went to Boston Market amd got a 1/4 chicken white
meat dinner with green beans and steamed veggies (hold the cornbread).
We have one by my office but not near home, so I go about once a week
for lunch and make 3 meals out of it. Today, I pulled off some chicken
and put that and some of the veggies into a small bowl and I realized
that the bowl LOOKED "meal sized". It didn't look tiny or meager... it
looked RIGHT (and I was full when I had eaten all but one piece of
broccoli).
Ok, so it's not much, but it's a sign that my brain is adjusting to the
RNY changes, and today that's about as positive as it gets.
Lora
Lisa A
284/271/160/135 ~ 25# to go!

trying to be positive

2008-09-20 11:52:36

I'm trying to find and focus on some positive things today. Not being
terribly successful, but nevertheless...
I noticed at lunch today that my brain seems to have adjusted to what
is a meal for me. I went to Boston Market amd got a 1/4 chicken white
meat dinner with green beans and steamed veggies (hold the cornbread).
We have one by my office but not near home, so I go about once a week
for lunch and make 3 meals out of it. Today, I pulled off some chicken
and put that and some of the veggies into a small bowl and I realized
that the bowl LOOKED "meal sized". It didn't look tiny or meager... it
looked RIGHT (and I was full when I had eaten all but one piece of
broccoli).
Ok, so it's not much, but it's a sign that my brain is adjusting to the
RNY changes, and today that's about as positive as it gets.
Lora

Re: PPO surgeons cannot FORCE you to pay full fee if "medically necessary"

2008-09-20 03:14:35

Thanks, Edie. No, it has not been approved yet, but I do meet all of
the criteria in the clinical policy bulletin (depending on how they
determine the severity of rashes, etc.).
Lora

This is so true

2008-09-19 19:53:32

WARNING FOR WOMEN:

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] PPO surgeons cannot FORCE you to pay full fee if "medically necessary"

2008-09-19 14:47:30

Lora,
Yes that's what you'll have to do, pay and get reimbursed. I can pretty
much guarantee you that they will pay you back. It may take a month or two,
but they will, they don't want to loose their contract with Aetna.
Make sure you get in writing what the person at Aetna told you, so that if
you do have to threaten them you have documentation to back you up.
When I gave you the advice the other day, I was under the impression that
the panni was already approved by Aetna. You do have a few more steps to
take before you know what your up against financially.
Good luck,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Profect Bullets

2008-09-19 07:14:38

You go, Pat! Show 'em who's boss! Maybe one of the other flavors they are
sending you will be the one that you end up liking. . .good luck! keep us
posted!
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/261

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Amy - protein bullets

2008-09-19 07:02:42

Pat,
sorry you had bad stuff. . that has happened to me a few times lately and drives
me nuts. . . i look forward to getting the grape bullets and trying them out. .
. right now I am doing the isopure zero carb stuff. . . mix your own. . . one 12
oz shake has 50 grams of protein. . . .
speaking of splurging (i mentioned it in my private email yesterday). . all of a
sudden last night I was starved. I made my one dry slice (meaning no butter) of
wheat toast and broke it into many many pieces. . and dipped each piece into a
cream of potato soup. . . held each piece in there for about 30 seconds to one
minute. . to get it good and soggy and to make sure I was not eating too fast. .
. . . then after the bread I ate a SF pudding called banana fudge royale. . . .
.0 g sugar. . . . . BUT 7 g sugar alcohol. . . Tasted wonderfully and filled me
up. . . . did all this about 30 minutes before bed. . . . hope I didn't sabotage
anything, but was afraid to be so hungry. . . .
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/261

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-18 16:06:06

Lora,
Try and take control of your emotions and not let them control you. . There is
nothing you can do about history, but you can take control and change your
future. . Dont allow what they did to you, make you miserable. Then they win
and we all know THEY ARE NOT WINNERS!! but you are . . Your a strong woman and I
know you can move past this. . (((((((((BIG Hugs!!))))))))))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW159**GW125-130

Re: Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-18 10:35:57

Lora,
What you are dealing with is very large as far as taking its toll on
you. I imagine it is overwhelming through no fault of your own.
Life is not fair and that sucks. If you believe in God you could
pray for some help.
But you have to keep pushing forward. What your describing is how I
felt after my surgery. I stopped reading the messages and I didn't
think anyone posting knew what I was going through. Everyone posting
how wonderful life was after surgery. It just made me mad. But look
what happened to me. Worse things. My hair fell out, not that I am
comparing that to your problems, I'm just suggesting that it you
don't get some release for your emotions, things CAN GET WORSE. Now,
don't get upset even more by that, but I am just trying to help you
understand that things can get worse unless you take control.
Also, I was going to suggest St John's Wort. I have heard that it
helps after a while. I also have some welbutin which I was
prescribed but I don't take. Do you want it? That is probably
against the law, but if you want to email me I will send them to
you. They are my only suggestions. I wish I could help more, but
keep in mind that I was serious about staying with me to get your PS
surgery. I am sure Johns Hopkins has some openings.
Lizanne

Re: Thanks

2008-09-18 06:31:31

Hi Dana,
My suggestion would be to take up a hobby that will keep your hands
busy....knitting, or any needlework, crossword puzzles, a little arm
weight lifting, those kind of things. That may help. I have a
problem with nuts. I can't seem to stop nibbling. It's kinda
mindless. I open the jar while concentrating on something else and
the next thing I know I realise I am still nibbling away at the
container. Scares me a little. I better get back to my own
suggestion before the nuts win.
Lizanne
Maryland
Open RNY 8/17/07
251/168/125

Re: Fat soluble vitamins

2008-09-18 02:11:25

Sharon,
Thank you for this information. I learned something very important.
The amount of calcium in my blood is high. That worried me a little
because when I look through the internet I am told that that is
caused by a poorly functioning pancreas or pancreatic cancer. Very
scary. My PCP didn't seem worried, but I was. Now I read in your
informations that, "Signs of vitamin D toxicity include excess
calcium in the blood, slowed mental and physical growth, decreased
appetite, nausea and vomiting." I take extra Vitamin D along with a
multi vit. There are so many advantages to the extra Vitamin D that
I didn't think about the detriments. I am still not sure that excess
calcium in the blood in a detriment. I have a pre-surgery appt with
my PCP at the end of May and I will ask him about it.
Very interesting, thanks
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-18 01:15:04

Thanks so much Lisa and Sharon. There isn't anything I can do about
the clearance issue now except wait (and worry), and even if they
approve the clearance, I still have to FIND another job. So right
now I will try to devote what very little energy I have to the oen
thing I CAN do something about... getting the request submitted to
get approval of medical necessity for the panni removal.
I did call my therapist to get an appointment this week (I didn't
have one scheduled until next week, but clearly I need one NOW).
Trying to remember to just BREATHE...
Lora

Re: Hi

2008-09-17 09:25:53

Welcome and congratulations on your surgery. Brusing is very common,
especially if they gave you an anti-coagulent (blood thinner) in the
hospital to help prevent a blood clot. My photo album has a picture
of my open incision in it (taken over a week AFTER surgery) and there
is still a lot of bruising.
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Hi

2008-09-17 07:50:14

RaCina, congratulations on getting the surgery, and welcome to the losers
lounge!!!
Right after my surgery I was putting fat free cream of chicken soup in the
blender with unflavored protein powder. It was the least worst way I have
gotten protein powder in so far. The blender didn't leave any chunks of
chicken or veggies, so I didn't need to strain it. It was yummy!
Pat
--- On Mon, 4/7/08, RaCina <racina@...
From: RaCina <racina@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] Hi

Hi

2008-09-17 06:36:08

I am 4 days post op, not doing to bad on my fluids I did get 32 ounces
in yesterday. I was wondering if everyone else had gotten a lot of
bruising, I have 2 very large bruises around 2 of the 6 insisions? Also
yesterday I had this epiphany hmmm if I could drink soy milk why not
have vegetable bouillion mixed with soy milk, I envisioned a lovely
creamy soup, well the taste and the color was nothing like what I had
in my mind, I drank 2 ounces and threw it out. Well seems to me if I am
allowed to drink soy milk why couldn't I have cream of chicken diluted
of course and strained? I am getting all my supplements down, so I do
guess this is a "good thing" (as Martha Stewart would say). I have
learned quite a lot from you guys, I do read all the posts, Thanks
again.....
New looser on the block! :)

Amy - protein bullets

2008-09-16 17:50:21

better late than never ;)
I am sooooo mad!!! I was going to send you both New Whey and Profect
bullets to try, but I noticed that all the Profect ones, that I just
got in Feb, all expired in Feb and March!!! I spent over $80 on
those things and only gagged down two!!!! I just wrote them an angry
email.... we'll see what they do about it. I'm sending you two of
the grape New Whey ones... they are 42g of protein each, and don't
expire until August.
Pat
--- On Sun, 4/6/08, Your Secret Sister <vickisecretsister@...
wrote:
From: Your Secret Sister <vickisecretsister@...
Subject: Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] Amy

Profect Bullets

2008-09-16 15:18:25

Wow... I just emailed Protica, the company that makes Profect bullets,
about sending me four boxes of bullets that were about to expire, and
they wrote right back and said they were sending replacements. The
bullets are nasty tasting, but at least they have good customer
service! LOL
I only tried two flavors so far... will see if any of the six others
are any better...
Pat

PPO surgeons cannot FORCE you to pay full fee if "medically necessary"

2008-09-16 12:50:32

I managed to muster up enough anger to call Aetna and ask about the
PSs who are refusing to submit claims for panniculectomies because
THEY say it's "cosmetic". I asked for someone in their compliance
unit, and she said that the PS *can* make you pay up front (and they
*can* make you pay the full fee up front), but if the proceedure is
approved by Aetna as medically necessary, and therefore covered under
the plan, Aetna will reimburse me the contracted rate and then the
surgeon MUST reimburse me whatever I paid over what the EOB says is
my portion. She said that if the surgeon refuses to reimburse me
(yeah, right, like they are actually going to give me several
thousand dollars back!), they are in violation of their contract and
their participation in the plan can be terminated. So, step one is
to enlist my PPC and RNY/hernia surgeon's help in getting the medical
necessity documented so I can (hopefully) get it approved by Aetna.
But then... what? Do I pick a surgeon, give them my insurance info,
allow them to tell me they won't submit and I have to pay full fee up
front, PAY them the full fee and then take a chance on having to sue
the surgeon to get my money back?!? One thing at a time, I guess,
especially since I barely have the energy to deal with that one
thing. It means I have to go see my PCP this week, show him my
curent rash, show him exactly how far this THING hangs down, etc.
(ugh), and have to try to get in to see my RNY/hernia surgeon before
my appt scheduled on the 29th to see if she will help.
I don't have the emotional energy for this right now, but somehow I
have to find it.
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-16 05:14:58

Lora,
It is good that you are reaching out. We have been and always will be here
for you. April is already 1/4 of the way done. You will be into May before you
even realize it. I would focus on the security clearance above all the other
things. I really feel like that will be just fine. Also, when it is done, what
a sense of relief you will have! It will make the job market a wide open
playing field, and the insurance will no longer be an issue because you will
have it. I know people say "One day at a time" but I think that is not a good
thing here. I would not focus on the day, but an event. "One event at a time"
The things you are dealing with are not struggles that can be met in 24 hours.
So spend your time productively getting through the things that you can. I am
sure that your countenance will perk up as each issue is checked off as
completed.
Also, don't forget to do something special for yourself. If you have some
spare time, go window shopping or take a class on making glass bead jewlery or
go to the library and read a book in a genre you have never chosen before. Just
do something different for a positive new experience so that you do not dwell on
the negative old ones.
Lisa A
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I was already struggling with some depression before the crap with
the PSs not wanting to accept insurance for a panni removal... now
I'm just feeling overwhelmed almost to the point of immobility.
Between needing the hernia fixed, WANTING the panni removed, my full-
time job ending in May, my medical insurance ending in September, not
having as many counseling clients as I had hoped/expected by now
(part-time job), the possible problem with my clearance (if it is
denied, that will significantly decrease the jobs available to me in
this area), trying to get the surgery(ies) scheduled so it will not
interfere with any potential new job and I will not run out of
medical insurance during the follow-up period, and dealing with the
expected April depression (my attack was in April so it is always a
hard month)... I just want to stay in bed.
I get sad/angry/hurt after I read things read here or on OH (and feel
bad because I feel that way) and I can feel myself withdrawing from
everything... and that's not good. Right now I feel FUBAR (and I
can't even go back on the anti-depressants with this clearance
investigation going on), so even posting this and admitting how I'm
feeling is hard. I know, though, that if I don't find ways to reach
out, I will continue to withdraw more and more. Tired of feeling
like I'm doing all the "right" things but keep running into brick
walls. My head hurts.
Lora
Lisa A
284/271/160/135 ~ 25# to go!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-15 14:57:17

((((((((((((Lora))))))))))))) dont withdraw . .even if daily you post that your
unhappy or crying or what ever, keep posting. . We are here to support you and
help you in any way we can while you go thru this. . i wish i had a magic pill
that would make it all better, but as you know. . that isnt possible. Just
stick close w/ us and we will be your sounding board and a shoulder to cry on if
you need us. . or me if you want to talk one on one....
Hang in there sweetie. . We all love and care for you!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW159**GW125-130

Just trying to find "my voice"

2008-09-15 09:18:33

I was already struggling with some depression before the crap with
the PSs not wanting to accept insurance for a panni removal... now
I'm just feeling overwhelmed almost to the point of immobility.
Between needing the hernia fixed, WANTING the panni removed, my full-
time job ending in May, my medical insurance ending in September, not
having as many counseling clients as I had hoped/expected by now
(part-time job), the possible problem with my clearance (if it is
denied, that will significantly decrease the jobs available to me in
this area), trying to get the surgery(ies) scheduled so it will not
interfere with any potential new job and I will not run out of
medical insurance during the follow-up period, and dealing with the
expected April depression (my attack was in April so it is always a
hard month)... I just want to stay in bed.
I get sad/angry/hurt after I read things read here or on OH (and feel
bad because I feel that way) and I can feel myself withdrawing from
everything... and that's not good. Right now I feel FUBAR (and I
can't even go back on the anti-depressants with this clearance
investigation going on), so even posting this and admitting how I'm
feeling is hard. I know, though, that if I don't find ways to reach
out, I will continue to withdraw more and more. Tired of feeling
like I'm doing all the "right" things but keep running into brick
walls. My head hurts.
Lora

Fat soluble vitamins

2008-09-15 05:52:21

Fat-Soluble Vitamins
by J. Anderson and L. Young1
Quick Facts...
a.. Small amounts of vitamins A, D, E and K are needed to maintain good
health.
b.. Foods that contain these vitamins will not lose them when cooked.
c.. The body does not need these every day and stores them in the liver
when not used.
d.. Most people do not need vitamin supplements.
e.. Megadoses of vitamins A, D, E or K can be toxic and lead to health
problems.
Vitamins are essential nutrients your body needs in small amounts for
various roles in the human body. Vitamins are divided into two groups:
water-soluble (B-complex and C) and fat-soluble (A, D, E and K). Unlike
water-soluble vitamins that need regular replacement in the body, fat-soluble
vitamins are stored in the liver and fatty tissues, and are eliminated much more
slowly than water-soluble vitamins.
Because fat-soluble vitamins are stored for long periods, they generally
pose a greater risk for toxicity than water-soluble vitamins when consumed in
excess. Eating a normal, well-balanced diet will not lead to toxicity in
otherwise healthy individuals. However, taking vitamin supplements that contain
mega doses of vitamins A, D, E and K may lead to toxicity. Remember, the body
only needs small amounts of any vitamin.
While diseases caused by a lack of fat-soluble vitamins are rare in the
United States, symptoms of mild deficiency can develop without adequate amounts
of vitamins in the diet. Additionally, some health problems may decrease the
absorption of fat, and in turn, decrease the absorption of vitamins A, D, E and
K. Consult your doctor about this.
Table 1 lists sources of fat-soluble vitamins, their basic functions in
the body, major deficiency symptoms caused by a lack of these vitamins, and
symptoms of over-consumption.
Vitamin A
Vitamin A, also called retinol, has many functions in the body. In
addition to helping the eyes adjust to light changes, vitamin A plays an
important role in bone growth, tooth development, reproduction, cell division
and gene expression. Also, the skin, eyes and mucous membranes of the mouth,
nose, throat and lungs depend on vitamin A to remain moist.
The best way to ensure your body gets enough vitamin A is to eat a variety
of foods. Vitamin A is supplied primarily by certain foods of animal origin like
dairy products, fish and liver. Some foods of plant origin contain
beta-carotene, an antioxidant that the body converts to vitamin A.
Beta-carotene, or provitamin A, comes from fruits and vegetables. Carrots,
pumpkin, winter squash, dark green leafy vegetables and apricots are rich
sources of beta-carotene.
The recommendation for vitamin A intake is expressed as micrograms (mcg)
of retinol activity equivalents (RAE). Retinol activity equivalents account for
the fact that the body converts only a portion of beta-carotene to retinol. One
RAE equals 1 mcg of retinol or 12 mcg of beta-carotene (see Table 2).
True vitamin A deficiency in the United States is rare. Night blindness
and very dry, rough skin may indicate a lack of vitamin A. Other signs of
possible vitamin A deficiency include decreased resistance to infections, faulty
tooth development, and slower bone growth.
In the United States, toxic or excess levels of vitamin A are of more
concern than deficiencies. The tolerable upper intake level for adults is 3,000
mcg RAE. It would be difficult to reach this level consuming food alone. But
some multivitamin supplements contain high doses of vitamin A. If you take a
multivitamin, check the label to be sure the majority of vitamin A provided is
in the form of beta-carotene, which appears to be safe. Symptoms of vitamin A
toxicity include dry, itchy skin, headache, nausea, and loss of appetite. Signs
of severe overuse over a short period of time include dizziness, blurred vision
and slowed growth. Vitamin A toxicity also can cause severe birth defects and
may increase the risk for hip fractures.
Physicians sometimes recommend that young infants take vitamin supplements
that contain vitamin A. However, toddlers and children need protection from too
much vitamin A due to their smaller body size. Typical foods eaten in large
amounts by toddlers and children usually contain sufficient amounts of vitamin
A. Provide a variety of foods for your children, and if in doubt, check with a
pediatrician or Registered Dietitian.
Table 1: Vitamin facts.
Vitamin Source Physiological Functions Deficiency Overconsumption
A (retinol) (provitamin A, such as beta carotene) Vitamin A: liver,
vitamin A fortified milk and dairy products, butter, whole milk, cheese, egg
yolk.
Provitamin A: carrots, leafy green vegetables, sweet potatoes,
pumpkins, winter squash, apricots, cantaloupe. Helps to form skin and mucous
membranes and keep them healthy, thus increasing resistance to infections;
essential for night vision; promotes bones and tooth development. Beta carotene
is an antioxidant and may protect against cancer. Mild: night blindness,
diarrhea, intestinal infections, impaired vision.
Severe: inflammation of eyes, keratinization of skin and eyes.
Blindness in children. Mild: nausea, irritability, blurred vision.
Severe: growth retardation, enlargement of liver and spleen, loss of
hair, bone pain, increased pressure in skull, skin changes.
D Vitamin D-fortified dairy products, fortified margarine, fish
oils, egg yolk. Synthesized by sunlight action on skin. Promotes hardening of
bones and teeth, increases the absorption of calcium. Severe: rickets in
children; osteomalacia in adults. Mild: nausea, weight loss, irritability.
Severe: mental and physical growth retardation, kidney damage,
movement of calcium from bones into soft tissues.
E Vegetable oil, margarine, butter, shortening, green and leafy
vegetables, wheat germ, whole grain products, nuts, egg yolk, liver. Protects
vitamins A and C and fatty acids; prevents damage to cell membranes.
Antioxidant. Almost impossible to produce without starvation; possible anemia in
low birth-weight infants. Nontoxic under normal conditions.
Severe: nausea, digestive tract disorders.
K Dark green leafy vegetables, liver; also made by bacteria in the
intestine. Helps blood to clot. Excessive bleeding. None reported.
Vitamin D
Vitamin D plays a critical role in the body's use of calcium and
phosphorous. It increases the amount of calcium absorbed from the small
intestine and helps form and maintain bones. Children especially need adequate
amounts of vitamin D to develop strong bones and healthy teeth.
The primary food sources of vitamin D are milk and other dairy products
fortified with vitamin D. Vitamin D is also found in oily fish (e.g., herring,
salmon and sardines) as well as in cod liver oil. In addition to the vitamin D
provided by food, we obtain vitamin D through our skin which makes vitamin D in
response to sunlight.
An Adequate Intake (AI) for has been established for vitamin D (see Table
2). The AIs for vitamin D appear as micrograms (mcg) of cholecalciferol. Ten mcg
of cholecalciferol equals 400 International Units (IU).
Symptoms of vitamin D deficiency in growing children include rickets
(long, soft bowed legs) and flattening of the back of the skull. Vitamin D
deficiency in adults is called osteomalacia, which results in muscular weakness
and weak bones. These conditions are rare in the United States.
The tolerable upper intake level for vitamin D is set at 50 mcg for people
1 year of age and older (see Table 3). High doses of vitamin D supplements
coupled with large amounts of fortified foods may cause accumulations in the
liver and produce signs of poisoning. Signs of vitamin D toxicity include excess
calcium in the blood, slowed mental and physical growth, decreased appetite,
nausea and vomiting.
It is important that infants and young children do not consume excess
amounts of vitamin D regularly. Children exposed to the sun for 5 to 10 minutes
daily will produce enough vitamin D. However, if children live in inner cities,
wear clothes that cover most of their skin or live in northern climates where
little sun is seen in the winter, then vitamin D deficiency may occur. Rather
than give children a supplement, add fortified foods to their diet, such as
vitamin D fortified milk and other dairy products.
Table 2: Dietary Reference Intakes (DRI) for fat soluble vitamins.
Life Stage Group Vitamin A (mcg1) Vitamin A (IU) Vitamin D (mcg2)
Vitamin D (IU) Vitamin E (mg a-TE3) Vitamin E (IU)
Infants 0.0-0.5 400* 1333 5* 200 4* 6
0.5-1.0 500* 1666 5* 200 5* 7.5
Children 1-3 300 1000 5* 200 6 9
4-8 400 1333 5* 200 7 10.5
Males 9-13 600 2000 5* 200 11 16.5
14-18 900 3000 5* 200 15 22.5
19-30 900 3000 5* 200 15 22.5
31-50 900 3000 5* 200 15 22.5
51-70 900 3000 10* 400 15 22.5
71+ 900 3000 15* 600 15 22.5
Females 9-13 600 2000 5* 200 11 16.5
14-18 700 2333 5* 200 15 22.5
19-30 700 2333 5* 200 15 22.5
31-50 700 2333 5* 200 15 22.5
51-70 700 2333 10* 400 15 22.5
71+ 700 2333 15* 600 15 22.5
Pregnant <18 750 2500 5* 200 15 22.5
19-30 770 2566 5* 200 15 22.5
31-50 770 5* 200 15 22.5
Lactating <18 1,300 4000 5* 200 19 28.8
19-30 1,300 4333 5* 200 19 28.8
31-50 1,300 4333 5* 200 19 28.8
*Indicates an Adequate Intake (AI). All other values are Recommended
Dietary Allowance (RDA).
1As retinol activity equivalents (RAEs). 1 RAE = 1mcg retinol or 12
mcg beta-carotene.
2 As cholecalciferol. 10 mcg cholecalciferol = 400 IU of vitamin D.
3 As alpha-tocopherol equivalents. 1 mg of alpha-tocopherol = 1.5 IU
of vitamin E.
Vitamin E
Vitamin E acts as an antioxidant, protecting vitamins A and C, red blood
cells and essential fatty acids from destruction. Research from a decade ago
suggested that taking antioxidant supplements, vitamin E in particular, might
help prevent heart disease and cancer. However, newer findings indicate that
people who take antioxidant supplements are not better protected against heart
disease and cancer than non-supplement users. On the other hand, there are many
studies that show a link between regularly eating antioxidant-rich fruits and
vegetables and a lower risk for heart disease, cancer and several other
diseases.
The RDA for vitamin E is based on the most active and usable form called
alpha-tocopherol (see Table 2). One milligram of alpha-tocopherol equals to 1.5
International Units (IU).About 60 percent of vitamin E in the diet comes from
vegetable oil or products made with vegetable oils. Therefore, good food sources
of vitamin E include vegetable oils and margarines. Vitamin E is also found in
fruits and vegetables, grains, nuts, seeds and fortified cereals.
Vitamin E deficiency is rare. Cases of vitamin E deficiency only occur in
premature infants and people unable to absorb fats.
The tolerable upper intake levels for vitamin E are shown in Table 3.
Large doses of vitamin E pose a hazard to people who take blood-thinning
medications. People taking statin drugs are also not advised to take
supplemental vitamin E because it may interfere with how the medication works.
Vitamin K
Naturally produced by the bacteria in the intestines, vitamin K plays an
essential role in normal blood clotting and helps promote bone health.
Good food sources of vitamin K are green vegetables such as turnip greens,
spinach, cauliflower, cabbage and broccoli, and certain vegetables oils
including soybean oil, cottonseed oil, canola oil and olive oil. Animal foods,
in general, contain limited amounts of vitamin K.
To help ensure people receive sufficient amounts of vitamin K, an Adequate
Intake (AI) has been established for each age group (see Table 2).
Without sufficient amounts of vitamin K, hemorrhaging can occur.
Deficiencies may appear in infants, or in people who take anticoagulants or
antibiotic drugs. Newborn babies lack the intestinal bacteria to produce vitamin
K and need a supplement for the first week. People on anticoagulant drugs (blood
thinners) may become deficient in vitamin K, but should not change their vitamin
K intake without consulting a physician because the effectiveness of the drug
may be affected. People taking antibiotics may lack vitamin K temporarily
because intestinal bacteria are sometimes killed as a result of long-term use of
antibiotics. Also, people with chronic diarrhea may have problems absorbing
sufficient amounts of vitamin K through the intestine and should consult their
physician to determine if supplementation is necessary.
Although a tolerable upper intake level has not been established for
vitamin K, excessive amounts can cause the breakdown of red blood cells and
liver damage. Large doses are not advised.
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Water soluble vitamins

2008-09-15 00:44:57

I was wrong .. i thought i remembered that B-12 was fat soluble ....oh well. .
here is an article about water soluble vitamins for anyone that needs to know
Water-Soluble Vitamins
by J. Anderson and L. Young1
Quick Facts...
a.. B-complex vitamins and vitamin C are water-soluble vitamins that are
not stored in the body and must be replaced each day.
b.. These vitamins are easily destroyed or washed out during food
storage and preparation.
c.. The B-complex group is found in a variety of foods: cereal grains,
meat, poultry, eggs, fish, milk, legumes and fresh vegetables.
d.. Citrus fruits are good sources of vitamin C.
e.. Use of megadoses of vitamins is not recommended.
Vitamins are essential nutrients found in foods. The requirements are
small but they perform specific and vital functions essential for maintaining
health.
The two types of vitamins are classified by the materials in which they
will dissolve. Fat-soluble vitamins -- vitamins A, D, E and K -- dissolve in fat
before they are absorbed in the blood stream to carry out their functions.
Excesses of these vitamins are stored in the liver. Because they are stored,
they are not needed every day in the diet.
By contrast, water-soluble vitamins dissolve in water and are not stored;
they are eliminated in urine. We need a continuous supply of them in our diets.
The water-soluble vitamins are the B-complex group and vitamin C.
Water-soluble vitamins are easily destroyed or washed out during food
storage or preparation. Proper storage and preparation of food can minimize
vitamin loss. To reduce vitamin loss, refrigerate fresh produce, keep milk and
grains away from strong light, and use the cooking water from vegetables to
prepare soups. (See Table 1.)
Vitamin B-Complex
Eight of the water-soluble vitamins are known as the B-complex group:
thiamin (vitamin B1), riboflavin (vitamin B2), niacin, vitamin B6, folate,
vitamin B12, biotin and pantothenic acid. These vitamins are widely distributed
in foods. (See Table 2.) Their influence is felt in many parts of the body. They
function as coenzymes that help the body obtain energy from food. They also are
important for normal appetite, good vision, healthy skin, healthy nervous system
and red blood cell formation.
Beriberi, pellagra and pernicious anemia are three well-known B-vitamin
deficiencies. These diseases are not a problem in the United States, but
occasionally they occur when people omit certain foods or overeat certain foods
at the expense of others. Alcoholics are especially prone to thiamin deficiency
because alcohol replaces food.
When grains and grain products are refined, essential nutrients lost
during processing are put back into these foods through a process called
enrichment. Among the nutrients added during the enrichment process are thiamin,
niacin, riboflavin, folate and iron. Some examples of enriched grain products
are white rice, many breakfast cereals, white flour, breads, and pasta.
For some populations, rice is the main dietary staple. When "polishing"
rice (removing its outer layers) became popular, thiamin deficiency, or
beriberi, increased significantly.
In the early 1900s, the most widespread vitamin deficiency disease in the
United States was pellagra, or niacin deficiency. At that time, pellagra caused
thousands of deaths and many cases of mental and physical illness among the poor
in the Southeast. The enrichment of flour, rice, and wheat products helped to
eliminate the deficiency problems found in people who depended on these food
items for most of their daily calories.
Table 3 summarizes the new standards for nutrient recommendations: The
Dietary Reference Intake (DRI). The recommendations meet the average daily
nutritional needs of all healthy people. To ensure the needs of all in the
population, the DRI usually exceeds the requirements for most people. They do
not cover requirements for illness and special health disorders.
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Cottage Cheese Pancakes

2008-09-14 18:47:25

Here is a recipe that I thought others might be interested in.
It is very good and very healthy with a good amount of protein in each one
*Cottage Cheese Pancakes
*Half a medium onion, chopped
1 tablespoon butter
1 egg
1/2 cup cottage cheese
2 tablespoons flour
salt
pepper
Saute the onion in the butter until golden... allow to cool in pan. In a
small bowl, beat egg slightly, blend in cottage cheese, flour, salt and
pepper, and onion butter mixture. Heat nonstick skillet, spray with Pam, and
place four 1/4 cup scoops of batter and spread into small pancakes. Cook
until browned... flip and cook until lightly brown on other side. YUMMY!
*Linda's Cottage Cheese-Oatmeal Pancakes*
1 c. oatmeal, ground (measure BEFORE grinding in a food processor)
1/2 t. baking soda
1/8 t. salt
3-4 T. Splenda Granular
1/4 t. pumpkin pie spice (or combination of other sweet spices you like)
Stir together above ingredients in a mixing bowl. In a seperate bowl whisk
together:
4 eggs
1 c. cottage cheese
1/3 c. milk
1 t. vanilla
Add to dry ingredients and let sit for a few minutes. Spray a small skillet
with non-stick spray. Heat over medium. Pour 1/3 c. into hot pan and cook
until cake is getting dry on the top (but lower heat if it gets too dark on
bottom). Turn carefully and continue to cook for a few minutes. (These are
difficult to flip if you don't let them cook enough on the first side.) Can
cool and stack on a plate and wrap tightly with plastic wrap.
These are sooooo good with plain yogurt and a squirt of sugar-free syrup. Or
peanut butter and syrup, or jam and cool whip........ .the possibilites are
endless!
Approx stats: 6 pancakes - 10 pro grams/each - 152 calories/each
Al
Post-Op LAP RNY Jan 11, 2006
Monterrey, Mexico
Plastic Surgery round #1 May 2007 - TT, Chest, Arms
Buenos Aires, Argentina
HW 469lbs BMI 67.8
CW 195lbs BMI 28 Just Overweight Now
GW 185-200lbs BMI ??

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Please welcome new member Dan

2008-09-14 17:07:35

Hi Dana,
How are you doing? How has your journy been so far?
Welcome,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Welcome New Member - Heidi

2008-09-14 06:56:26

Welcome Heidi,
I am a nurse also. There are a lot of us in this group. Jump in the
conversations so we get to know you. How much weight did you lose and how are
you maintaining it this far out?
Debby
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
New Member Questionnaire
Welcome new member! We are so glad you are here. So we can get to
know you better please copy the information below and paste it into a
new message board post. Then simply answer the questions and post!
Again, welcome! We're glad you're here, and look forward to getting
to know you better!
1. Name: Heidi Chavez
2. City and State: Creedmoor, NC
3. E-mail Address:fhchavez07@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: post op
5. Date of WLS:Oct 23,2001
6. Surgeon's Name and Location:Dr. Bistorlaradies, Ann Arbor Mich.
7. Type of Surgery: Gastric Bypass
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:478
9. Insurance or Self-Pay:insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if applicable):Humana
11. How did you hear about this group?:My son found you om the web
12. Birthdate:6/24/66
13. Occupation:nurse
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?):Married
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names?Yes 4 Heather
23, Tony 21, Matt 20, Andrew 19,
16. Hobbies:I love Yardsales , movies , My BIBLE The most.
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members:I have 2
beautiful grandbabies Abram is 2, and Isabel is 5 mo. old they are
the light of my days .I don't get to see them ,they live in different
states but Nana never stops praying for them and loving them.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Welcome New Member - Dana

2008-09-14 01:40:06

Dana, Welcome to the group. My surgery was one week after yours. How are you
doing?
Debby
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
1. Name: Dana Christman
2. City and State: Las Cruces, NM
3. E-mail Address: danachristman@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: post-op
5. Date of WLS: Jan. 7, 2008
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: Dr. Lara; El Paso, TX
7. Type of Surgery: lap. RNY
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight: 269
9. Insurance or Self-Pay: insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if
applicable): BC/BS of NM
11. How did you hear about this group?: from a friend
12. Birthdate: 5-19-58
13. Occupation: teacher
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?):
married
to
Matt
15. Do you have children? no If so, what are their names? --
16. Hobbies: reading, hiking, traveling, etc.
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members: Looks
like a
friendly group. Hoping to learn from you all.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Repeat for Judy

2008-09-13 18:25:24

Bonnie, I am wearing a v neck, tied in the back top (accentuate the neck
line/cleavage, makes me look thinner LOL) and jeans. oh Bonnie, it sounds right
out of Officer and a Gentleman! I love that ending, cry every time. just
remember you TRULY ARE BLESSED! you paid your dues and received your blessing in
return!
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: UpDate on me...........

2008-09-13 14:58:53

I'm sorry to hear about your brother. That sounds like a very
serious situation especially in someone so young still.
(Congratulations on your weight loss, though.)
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] probably inappropriate

2008-09-13 05:39:14

Thanks to ALL of you. I just love how positive all of you are, even though now
I'm wondering about his "performance" in the future. But that is waayyyy off.
as you all know when you're heavy you are so self conscious it's not funny, so
believe me not wanting to do anything NOW is just fine with me.
I actually mentioned the surgery to him and he was shocked, said that I didn't
look heavy enough to be doing that (is that sweet) he actually said "you're not
fat! are you?" LOL i thought maybe he's blind! I didn't tell him I'm 100 lbs
overweight, boy I really must carry it well LOL
then I gave him my myspace address so he could see ALLL my pics some heavier
than now and of course the ones i just took at baby shower, which I think shows
I've lost weight. so friday on the phone again we got to the weight subject and
again he said that I look very pretty, not heavy or big at all! I said Okay
whatever you say, I'm not heavy, I'm voluptuous okay we'll call it that! he said
that looks don't matter, it's not all about that. so we'll see what happens
today.
I should mention that he doesn't live in my neighborhood, he lives up past
Modesto, which for non californians means he has to drive 2 hours to get to me
:) This is our first meeting, and instead of a quick coffee just in case!! we're
doing lunch, movie and coffee after at Starbucks. he's bringing his laptop so I
can show him how to use the different sites I use. so -so far so good- but we'll
see!!!
ALL you online daters know how this is a chance we take, sometimes it's a hit,
and sometimes it's a miss.
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] ALLY

2008-09-13 05:05:42

WOOHOO, Ally's getting married! that is so marvelous - sorry gazillions of
emails can't remember the date!! 19th? I expect pictures as soon as you get near
a pc. With all the wonderful events in our lives this year, our photo section is
gonna be full and beautiful.
Losing It With Friends!
Judy
Grandbaby Travis - almost here - 04/15/08
Grandbaby Mr/Ms Lindsey - due 11/06/08
262/239
236/goal for surgery!

I'm So excited I have my surgery Date!

2008-09-12 22:58:53

It's August 4th.
Katy Weber
(916) 452-7380
4540 Del Rio Road
Sacramento, Ca 95822

Update SHOCKER!!!

2008-09-12 16:50:34

I'm finally getting around to updating what happened today at the
final pre-op appointment.
Talked with the new Nut, she is sooo much nicer and pleasant that the
previous person, yay! She was excited about my weight loss and said
that she thinks I am going to do great. I really liked her upbeat
attitude and positive nature.
Well, here comes the NEWS!!!! Dr. Sudan walks in (the Head Surgeon)
and tells me that Dr. Forse will NOT be doing my surgery and the HE
himself will be performing my surgery.
Yowzers! Then he goes on to tell me that he will be transferring
from CUMC to North Carolina so he train other Doctors on his
procedures.
So in a little under 24 hours I went from Dr. Wright, to Dr. Forse to
now Dr. Sudan ~ enough to make your head spin.
I have to do a bowel treatment on Monday and he said that I would
only have 1 drain tube. Also, they are not going to remove my
gallbladder unless they have complications and he said that I am a
perfect candidate for RNY b/c of my dedication to losing weight
beforehand, following the rules and being in good general health.
Yay!!! So 5 more days, I can't believe it!!!! Oh yeah, and I love
what he said to me ~~ we talked about possible complications and what
could go wrong (including death) and he said, "In my hands, that
WON'T happen"
XOX
Amy

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Secondhand stores

2008-09-12 12:36:49

Lizanne... Boy did you luck out or what??? I used to get excited when I
saw plus sized clothes at a yard sale... Which was very very rarely... Plus
sized people tend to cling to anything they find that fits them. Remember
those days? LOL
I have been carrying bags of clothes in sizes 26 and 28 to work to give to
people. Now my clothes that are 22's are getting baggy too. This is a
rush! I still have a few clothes that I have saved that are 18 and 20...
But not sure if I have enough for working 5 days a week. Isn't it fun to
try on clothes and keep putting them in the "give away" pile? Just before
Easter I gave a co-worker a gorgeous dress that I paid $149 for to wear on
the cruise for one of the formal dinner nights. It still had the tags on it
and it made me sad to give it away... But she wore it to church Easter
Sunday and received raves from all her friends and family. So... Giving it
away turned into something positive for everyone!
It is my dream to be a size 14...
Bonnie

Re: Secondhand stores

2008-09-12 04:30:49

That's great, Lizanne! Boy do I hope for a windfall like that!
That's my size as well, and I have absolutely NOTHING for the
spring / summer.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/173/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: Please welcome new member Dana

2008-09-11 19:14:14

Hi Dana! Welcome to the group!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/173/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Bonnie-Wedding Gown

2008-09-11 14:05:07

Ally... Congratulations on your upcoming wedding! It is an exciting and
emotional time isn't it? I decided that the white dress I will wear will
stand for starting over... Wiping the slate clean... Clean as the new driven
snow! I think white is a color of renewal. Please post pictures of your
wedding... I and everyone else will be so happy to see them!!!
Bonnie

Re: Please welcome new member Heidi!!

2008-09-11 10:29:53

Welcome Heidi,
I love yard sales also.
I see that you had your surgery a long time ago, relatively. Tell us
about your journey. If we can be of any help, just ask away and we
will do our best. Glad you joined.
Lizanne

Re: Bonnie-Wedding Gown

2008-09-10 23:46:27

Ally,
I am glad you are wearing white. Old traditions start out as meaning
one thing, but truly, it's just about the gloriousness of the
ceremony and that two people who love each other are being united in
front of God and your friends. There are not very many virgins
getting married nowadays so I believe that on your special day you
should be able to do what you want.
13 days....are you getting nervous? Cold feet? Make sure you post
your pics so we can see which dress you chose. I pray that your
marriage and wedding are wonderful.
Lizanne

Secondhand stores

2008-09-10 23:14:54

Bonnie,
I don't know what I would do without second hand stores and yard
sales. The yard sales are just starting up again in our area.
Yesterday I spent $19 on over 40 pieces of clothing. There were 2
yardsales next door to each other and they were both selling clothes
in size 14. Tada!! And one of them was selling her clothes for 25
cents a piece. 14s are my size and I have almost no clothes in that
size hiding in my closet. Now I have shorts and skirts and blouses
and tops for the spring and summer. Then, when I arrived at home I
pulled out all my clothes that were hiding all over the house and for
6 hours I tried clothes on. I have 4 huge bags of clothes for all
seasons that will go to a donation with Amvet, or a consignment
store. I have only 2 small bags of clothes that are too small, and a
whole closet full of clothes that fit. What a great day I had.
Lizanne

Welcome New Member - Dana

2008-09-10 17:10:42

1. Name: Dana Christman
2. City and State: Las Cruces, NM
3. E-mail Address: danachristman@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: post-op
5. Date of WLS: Jan. 7, 2008
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: Dr. Lara; El Paso, TX
7. Type of Surgery: lap. RNY
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight: 269
9. Insurance or Self-Pay: insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if
applicable): BC/BS of NM
11. How did you hear about this group?: from a friend
12. Birthdate: 5-19-58
13. Occupation: teacher
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?):
married
to
Matt
15. Do you have children? no If so, what are their names? --
16. Hobbies: reading, hiking, traveling, etc.
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members: Looks
like a
friendly group. Hoping to learn from you all.

Welcome New Member - Heidi

2008-09-10 05:30:45

New Member Questionnaire
Welcome new member! We are so glad you are here. So we can get to
know you better please copy the information below and paste it into a
new message board post. Then simply answer the questions and post!
Again, welcome! We're glad you're here, and look forward to getting
to know you better!
1. Name: Heidi Chavez
2. City and State: Creedmoor, NC
3. E-mail Address:fhchavez07@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: post op
5. Date of WLS:Oct 23,2001
6. Surgeon's Name and Location:Dr. Bistorlaradies, Ann Arbor Mich.
7. Type of Surgery: Gastric Bypass
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:478
9. Insurance or Self-Pay:insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if applicable):Humana
11. How did you hear about this group?:My son found you om the web
12. Birthdate:6/24/66
13. Occupation:nurse
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?):Married
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names?Yes 4 Heather
23, Tony 21, Matt 20, Andrew 19,
16. Hobbies:I love Yardsales , movies , My BIBLE The most.
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members:I have 2
beautiful grandbabies Abram is 2, and Isabel is 5 mo. old they are
the light of my days .I don't get to see them ,they live in different
states but Nana never stops praying for them and loving them.

Please welcome new member Dana

2008-09-09 23:01:43

1. Name: Dana Christman
2. City and State: Las Cruces, NM
3. E-mail Address: danachristman@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: post-op
5. Date of WLS: Jan. 7, 2008
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: Dr. Lara; El Paso, TX
7. Type of Surgery: lap. RNY
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight: 269
9. Insurance or Self-Pay: insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS (if
applicable): BC/BS of NM
11. How did you hear about this group?: from a friend
12. Birthdate: 5-19-58
13. Occupation: teacher
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?): married to
Matt
15. Do you have children? no If so, what are their names? --
16. Hobbies: reading, hiking, traveling, etc.
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members: Looks like a
friendly group. Hoping to learn from you all.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Please welcome new member Dana

2008-09-09 20:30:51

Welcome, Dana!!!! So glad to have you here with us!!
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
03/31/2008
HW/SW/CW
299/267/???

Please welcome new member Heidi!!

2008-09-09 12:43:59

New Member Questionnaire
Welcome new member! We are so glad you are here. So we can get to know you
better please copy the information below and paste it into a new message board
post. Then simply answer the questions and post!
Again, welcome! We¢re glad you¢re here, and look forward to getting to know you
better!
1. Name: Heidi Chavez
2. City and State: Creedmoor, NC
3. E-mail Address:fhchavez07@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: post op
5. Date of WLS:Oct 23,2001
6. Surgeon¢s Name and Location:Dr. Bistorlaradies, Ann Arbor Mich.
7. Type of Surgery: Gastric Bypass
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:478
9. Insurance or Self-Pay:insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS (if
applicable):Humana
11. How did you hear about this group?:My son found you om the web
12. Birthdate:6/24/66
13. Occupation:nurse
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse¢s name?):Married
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names?Yes 4 Heather 23, Tony
21, Matt 20, Andrew 19,
16. Hobbies:I love Yardsales , movies , My BIBLE The most.
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members:I have 2 beautiful
grandbabies Abram is 2, and Isabel is 5 mo. old they are the light of my days .I
don't get to see them ,they live in different states but Nana never stops
praying for them and loving them.
You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total
Access, No Cost.

Bonnie-Wedding Gown

2008-09-09 09:39:17

Hi Bonnie-
I am getting married in 13 days for the second time. I really struggled with
whether or not to wear a white dress having been married before. It seemed
silly to me, but my fiance really wanted me to wear white. I may not be a
virgin, so the virginal white symbol of the white dress is inappropriate in a
sense, but he thinks I'm wonderful and beautiful, and he wanted to see me in the
white dress. So...I'm wearing it. You do what you think is best for you. It's
your wedding, no one elses. It's your day!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/162/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Probably inappropriate....

2008-09-09 06:51:04

Judy,
I think it is great that you are sticking to your guns. I feel the same way
that you do, and have found that my options in potential dates are really really
slim. I hope that Bonnie is wrong in her assessment of the situation. It is my
prayer for you that this person is progressing in his faith and that you will
find the peace of learning more together. :)
Enjoy your Sunday!
Lisa A
BONNIE <brogers@...
Judy... From my time on the internet dating sites I learned that when
men
said they were not interested in sex it meant that they were usually
impotent!!!! This may or not be the case with your date and this may or
may not be an area of concern for you... But just wanted you to be aware of
the possibility. I am hoping he is just a God fearing man who believes in
the sanctity of marriage and/or he has a prescription for viagra!
Well hey.... If we can talk about BM's, vomiting,and diseased ovaries and
livers... Can't we talk about this too??

Probably inappropriate....

2008-09-08 21:11:01

Judy... From my time on the internet dating sites I learned that when men
said they were not interested in sex it meant that they were usually
impotent!!!! This may or not be the case with your date and this may or
may not be an area of concern for you... But just wanted you to be aware of
the possibility. I am hoping he is just a God fearing man who believes in
the sanctity of marriage and/or he has a prescription for viagra!
Well hey.... If we can talk about BM's, vomiting,and diseased ovaries and
livers... Can't we talk about this too??

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] insurance denial update

2008-09-08 17:48:55

Congratulations Millie,
Your weight loss is wonderful. congratulations on your claim being approved.
What a relief.
Debby
Millie <missmillie29@...
wooooo hooooo, GHI's denial of my surgery was overturned!!!! They have
to pay. I must say it was a big relief for me but mostly for my
husband, I guess he didn't have as much faith in the system as I do.
It's pretty sad when an outside source has to tell your ins. co. to pay
for a surgery that they should have paid for in the first place. I am
now down 46 lbs since I started my journey.
Blessings to all, Millie