Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-31 22:33:23

I am trying to be patient... but even my surgeon showed concern at my
last visit that I had only lost 20 lbs in the 3 months since I had
seen him last. That's worrisome! *L*
Dawn in PA
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Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-31 18:52:29

NO ONE is done at 7-8 months. Read the posts to Dawn...
Pat
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
Talk about losing SLOW!!!! I think my scale now only knows the number
166!!! It hasnt changed in weeks. . I hope i am not done at this point. . i want
to lose another 20-40 lbs
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-31 04:04:41

Thanks Sharon :)
Pat
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
Wooooo Hoooo!!!! Pat . . thats 22lbs!!! thats awesome!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-31 01:58:34

Dawn, you should know by now that it is an Italian mother's JOB to instill guilt
in her children??? That's what they DO!
Pat
Dawn <scottndawn@...
Hi Sharon,
I know she understands, but every so often I get the comment "even
your brother came to see me this week". That is like a rarity.
Okay, so all the other times that I saw her 3-4 times a week for
months count nothing to the fact that he came up once in like over 6
months! *L* Italian mothers - gotta love 'em!
I thought about going back to basics - and was going to do that
today, but when I pulled out my shake to drink, my son grabbed it and
downed it. Thanks! *LMAO* So... I'm just going to limit what I'm
doing and see if I can shake things up. We'll see! Time has to
permit, though - and that's the hard part.
Thanks for listening to me whine - I don't often do it, but today I'm
just feeling "off". *L*
I'm glad to hear everything is going well for your dad. I'm sure
that's a huge relief for you!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-30 23:44:27

Dawn, I think Debby and Lora are right... we all reach a point where our bodies
need to catch up and adjust to what we have been doing to them. This sudden
lifestyle change, plus the surgery, HAS TO be a shock to our systems. I can't
wait for the opportunity to say "I told ya so!!!" ;Þ
Pat
P.S. Feel free to throw my words back at me when it's *my* turn to whine!
debra hill <debbyk9009@...
Dawn
You're body is probable just adjusting to all the changes it has had over the
last 8 months. You're doing everything you are supposed to do so the scale
should eventually start to move down again. I can understand the frustration
though. I'm sure I will be whining when I hit a major plateau. With the amount
of calories you eat and the exercise you do, your body will have to respond and
DROP some of those pounds. You're still within the 12-18 month period my surgeon
gave me to lose weight. It will come, I'm sorry it's coming so slowly though.
Debby
Dawn <scottndawn@...
Losing all of your weight so fast isn't the best thing either.
Eventually the weight loss is going to slow down, or in my came come
to a complete halt, sooner or later.
I remember everyone kept commenting on my fast weight loss, and I
know that it bothered those that were losing slowly. I think losing
steadily for the long haul is actually better.
I lost the bulk of my weight in the first 3-4 months. After that, I
lost an additional 20 lbs in the next 2 months, and then absolutely
nothing for the last 3 months. I'm thinking I'm where I'm going to
end up - still "obese" and 20 lbs away from "overweight". I'm 8
months out already - I can't believe it.
My point is - everybody is different, and eventually we'll all end up
losing the weight. We have to accept what our own bodies will do
after this surgery - which will be different from the next person.
I'm sad for myself that I've come to a hault, but I am so happy for
everyone else that is still losing. I will continue to plug away and
eat healthy and exercise. Afterall, the point of this surgery for me
is to be healthy. If I don't lose another pound, so be it - so long
as I continue to eat right, exercise and take my supplements.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-30 10:52:30

Thanks Debby :)
Pat
debra hill <debbyk9009@...
Congratulations on the weight loss Pat!
Debby
Pat 0913 <pat.0913@...
LMAO... I wish with all my heart that you were right, but I doubt there is ANY
chance of me seeing my goal at 6 months!!! But... from your fingers to God's
ears!
Believe me, I weigh(ed) more than I look like
I typed stats once.. but I dropped a wee bit more since then.... here they are
RNY 02/07/08
269/247/140
SW/CW/GW
Pat
Lora <cicerogirl@...
Well, there's also the "starting weight factor". Based on your
pictures, you didn't start out anywhere NEAR the weight I did, so you
will probably lose more slowly (Otherwise you would probably hit your
goal weight in those 6 months!)
So, when are we going to see stats...?
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-30 03:47:46

Dawn, I'm wondering if part of the reason you aren't losing right now
has to do with your stress level...? Once upon a time I had read a
number of articles on how stress can affect your metabolism and cause
you to gain weight... so maybe in your case it is just dropping yours
low enough to keep you from losing? Just a thought. Hang in there.
The warm weather is coming which should help with the heating costs
AND your mood.
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-29 21:14:43

I have to agree with Pat... you're not done losing. Perhaps it is
exactly what you mentioned... you lost so much so quickly during the
first few months... so now maybe your body is just taking a while to
adjust. I've never heard of anyone who quit losing after only 8 months.
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-29 17:41:39

Congratulations on the weight loss Pat!
Debby
Pat 0913 <pat.0913@...
LMAO... I wish with all my heart that you were right, but I doubt
there is ANY chance of me seeing my goal at 6 months!!! But... from your fingers
to God's ears!
Believe me, I weigh(ed) more than I look like
I typed stats once.. but I dropped a wee bit more since then.... here they are
RNY 02/07/08
269/247/140
SW/CW/GW
Pat
Lora <cicerogirl@...
Well, there's also the "starting weight factor". Based on your
pictures, you didn't start out anywhere NEAR the weight I did, so you
will probably lose more slowly (Otherwise you would probably hit your
goal weight in those 6 months!)
So, when are we going to see stats...?
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-29 16:52:00

No apologies needed. This is a support group .. How can we know you need support
if you dont whine???? LOL . I think life just smacks us sometimes and we need
to muttle thru it.. .
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-29 10:01:23

Dawn
You're body is probable just adjusting to all the changes it has had over the
last 8 months. You're doing everything you are supposed to do so the scale
should eventually start to move down again. I can understand the frustration
though. I'm sure I will be whining when I hit a major plateau. With the amount
of calories you eat and the exercise you do, your body will have to respond and
DROP some of those pounds. You're still within the 12-18 month period my surgeon
gave me to lose weight. It will come, I'm sorry it's coming so slowly though.
Debby
Dawn <scottndawn@...
Losing all of your weight so fast isn't the best thing either.
Eventually the weight loss is going to slow down, or in my came come
to a complete halt, sooner or later.
I remember everyone kept commenting on my fast weight loss, and I
know that it bothered those that were losing slowly. I think losing
steadily for the long haul is actually better.
I lost the bulk of my weight in the first 3-4 months. After that, I
lost an additional 20 lbs in the next 2 months, and then absolutely
nothing for the last 3 months. I'm thinking I'm where I'm going to
end up - still "obese" and 20 lbs away from "overweight". I'm 8
months out already - I can't believe it.
My point is - everybody is different, and eventually we'll all end up
losing the weight. We have to accept what our own bodies will do
after this surgery - which will be different from the next person.
I'm sad for myself that I've come to a hault, but I am so happy for
everyone else that is still losing. I will continue to plug away and
eat healthy and exercise. Afterall, the point of this surgery for me
is to be healthy. If I don't lose another pound, so be it - so long
as I continue to eat right, exercise and take my supplements.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-28 22:17:55

Hi Sharon,
I know she understands, but every so often I get the comment "even
your brother came to see me this week". That is like a rarity.
Okay, so all the other times that I saw her 3-4 times a week for
months count nothing to the fact that he came up once in like over 6
months! *L* Italian mothers - gotta love 'em!
I thought about going back to basics - and was going to do that
today, but when I pulled out my shake to drink, my son grabbed it and
downed it. Thanks! *LMAO* So... I'm just going to limit what I'm
doing and see if I can shake things up. We'll see! Time has to
permit, though - and that's the hard part.
Thanks for listening to me whine - I don't often do it, but today I'm
just feeling "off". *L*
I'm glad to hear everything is going well for your dad. I'm sure
that's a huge relief for you!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Barbara Thompsons WLS newsletter

2007-12-28 21:20:41

http://www.barbarathompsonnewsletter.com/mar1_2008.htm
I hope this goes thru .. Really good info and she has CD's available to purchase
with interesting facts and help w/ our WLS journey..
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-28 14:23:25

((((((Dawn)))))))) Im so sorry that your under so much stress too. . god do i
know how your feeing. . sometimes i just read the posts and my mind is so
jumbled from everything or im so tired that i just read and delete if its not
addressed to me. . Im glad your mom is doing better and can come home. . dont
beat yourself up . im sure she understands your time restraints and she knows
you love her. . You and I need to do something to WAKE UP our SCALES!!!!! have
you thought about going back to basics? i have and just havent done it. . its
very hard to just go to shakes for a few days. . but i may try that soon and see
if i can shake things up. . Keep doing what your doing. . sounds like you,
unlike me, are doing what is necessary to cont to lose. .
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-28 05:52:37

Great mindset Dawn. . thats the way i feel for the most part. . i would like to
lose more. . and its been hard to keep my exercising up w/ this back pain that
my doctor could care less about. . im going to see another doctor this week and
see what they can do . .my armpits are wrinkly LOLOL that sucks . .LOL
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-28 05:36:54

A month ago I had thought the same thing - that it was just a plateau
and that I'd begin to lose weight again. I'm doing what I need to
do - exercise, eat right, my portions are under control, drink
water. I even cut out my afternoon decaf tea because I thought that
I was substituting the teas for water and it was not helping me. So
now I drink water in the afternoon, and there's still no movement.
Well, I should say there is movement - it's up and down. I'm
basically maintaining. My lowest point is 177 and I bounce around
from there.
I'm probably goint to have to increase my exercise each day, but I
just don't have the time. I'm stressed out with crap from work
(basically working 60-70 hours a WEEK - at work and at home). I'm
burnt out. Plus with my husband still not feeling well, he can't do
anything in the house - so that's on me as well. And what ever
little time is left, I really want to spend with my son. So what
time is left?
Plus yesterday my husband and I prepared the taxes and it's no wonder
why we're so damned broke. We spent close to $9,000 out of pocket in
medical expenses last year. Dear Lord! I can't even find the money
to get another order of oil. I pray the warm weather comes soon.
I'm sorry - just feeling discouraged today, and stressed out. I did
3 miles this morning with Leslie Sansone, I'm doing work now, and
later on I'm finally going to see my mom (who was released from the
hospital last Tuesday and I haven't seen her since). Great daughter,
right?
Dawn in PA
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-27 16:22:56

Wooooo Hoooo!!!! Pat . . thats 22lbs!!! thats awesome!!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-27 15:49:04

Talk about losing SLOW!!!! I think my scale now only knows the number 166!!!
It hasnt changed in weeks. . I hope i am not done at this point. . i want to
lose another 20-40 lbs
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-27 06:18:04

Dawn, I *very* much doubt that you are done losing weight at 8 months. My
surgeon, and many other people's surgeons, said that the loss will continue for
12 to 18 months. You are just at a plateau. I bet the weight loss starts up
again. I know it's frustrating, it would be for me too, but I don't think this
is the end for you!
Pat
Dawn <scottndawn@...
Losing all of your weight so fast isn't the best thing either.
Eventually the weight loss is going to slow down, or in my came come
to a complete halt, sooner or later.
I remember everyone kept commenting on my fast weight loss, and I
know that it bothered those that were losing slowly. I think losing
steadily for the long haul is actually better.
I lost the bulk of my weight in the first 3-4 months. After that, I
lost an additional 20 lbs in the next 2 months, and then absolutely
nothing for the last 3 months. I'm thinking I'm where I'm going to
end up - still "obese" and 20 lbs away from "overweight". I'm 8
months out already - I can't believe it.
My point is - everybody is different, and eventually we'll all end up
losing the weight. We have to accept what our own bodies will do
after this surgery - which will be different from the next person.
I'm sad for myself that I've come to a hault, but I am so happy for
everyone else that is still losing. I will continue to plug away and
eat healthy and exercise. Afterall, the point of this surgery for me
is to be healthy. If I don't lose another pound, so be it - so long
as I continue to eat right, exercise and take my supplements.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-27 04:42:39

Losing all of your weight so fast isn't the best thing either.
Eventually the weight loss is going to slow down, or in my came come
to a complete halt, sooner or later.
I remember everyone kept commenting on my fast weight loss, and I
know that it bothered those that were losing slowly. I think losing
steadily for the long haul is actually better.
I lost the bulk of my weight in the first 3-4 months. After that, I
lost an additional 20 lbs in the next 2 months, and then absolutely
nothing for the last 3 months. I'm thinking I'm where I'm going to
end up - still "obese" and 20 lbs away from "overweight". I'm 8
months out already - I can't believe it.
My point is - everybody is different, and eventually we'll all end up
losing the weight. We have to accept what our own bodies will do
after this surgery - which will be different from the next person.
I'm sad for myself that I've come to a hault, but I am so happy for
everyone else that is still losing. I will continue to plug away and
eat healthy and exercise. Afterall, the point of this surgery for me
is to be healthy. If I don't lose another pound, so be it - so long
as I continue to eat right, exercise and take my supplements.
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-27 02:01:22

WooooooooooHooooooooo!!! Lora!!! WTG!!!! My word woman!!! Your melting
before our eyes!!! :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-26 20:12:32

LMAO... I wish with all my heart that you were right, but I doubt there is ANY
chance of me seeing my goal at 6 months!!! But... from your fingers to God's
ears!
Believe me, I weigh(ed) more than I look like
I typed stats once.. but I dropped a wee bit more since then.... here they are
RNY 02/07/08
269/247/140
SW/CW/GW
Pat
Lora <cicerogirl@...
Well, there's also the "starting weight factor". Based on your
pictures, you didn't start out anywhere NEAR the weight I did, so you
will probably lose more slowly (Otherwise you would probably hit your
goal weight in those 6 months!)
So, when are we going to see stats...?
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-26 13:27:53

Well, there's also the "starting weight factor". Based on your
pictures, you didn't start out anywhere NEAR the weight I did, so you
will probably lose more slowly (Otherwise you would probably hit your
goal weight in those 6 months!)
So, when are we going to see stats...?
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: It's almost funny at this point

2007-12-26 08:12:08

That's great, Ally! Sometimes you just have to stand up for yourself
and say "enough is enough". I'm glad that it appears to have worked
out. At least it buys you some time to find another job if the jerk
doesn't follow through on all of his promises, and you don;t have the
stress of unemployment on top of all the wedding stress!
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-25 16:03:52

WOOHOO Lora!!! That is wonderful!!!! Congratulations!!!
I am sooooo hoping that I can lose 100lbs in 6 months, as so many people
have.. but, like Naomi, I'm afraid my age and years of yoyoing may hold me back.
Pat
Naomi Moschgat <nsmoschgat@...
That is an amazing amount of weight!!!! I am almost at that and I am
out 10 months. My dr says age, and how many diets you have been on make a huge
difference in speed. I try not to be jealous, but sometimes I feel a little
jealous.
Lora <cicerogirl@...
Saturdays. Yesterday I was
too busy and forgot so this morning I weighed myself. Down 110.5
pounds! Now, my goal was 111 pounds down (which would be 100 since
surgery plus the 11 pre-op) at six months out (which was technically
last week if you say that Sunday starts the week).
But, WTH, I'm counting today's weight as my 6-month weight and I'm
giving myself that extra half pound as "margin of error" for
water-weight, no BM yesterday or this morning, etc. (Why is it always
a half pound with me?!?) So, with my admittedly less than water-tight
logic, I made my 6 month goal despite the blasted stall of the last
few weeks! Woo-hoo! Mini happy dance.
Lora
(-111 pounds (rounding up!), 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-25 15:31:11

Hi, Naomi. I, too, sometimes struggle with feeling a little jealous of
those who are losing faster than I have. Even though I know it isn't
a race, and the only thing that matters is that I am doing what I need
to do and that my weight is going in the right direction, it's still
hard. I think that it's natural... many of us have been SO overweight
for SO long, and we want so badly to be at a normal, healthy weight...
it's hard to be patient. Well, for me it is, anyway.
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 months post-op)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] It's almost funny at this point

2007-12-25 07:40:22

Ally, congratulations on a satisfactory solution to your employment. I am so
happy you put your foot down. I would still continue your job search, but I
think it will be difficult with the hours you work. Stay strong.... Naomi
Allison <allisonmarie22@...
all of you saying that I had quit my job for good my bosses boss called me and
begged me to come back. He promised me my promotion, no write up and a sizeable
increase in pay. He said he would not be back in the office to discuss things
with me in detail until March 10th, but that if I was not satisfied with the
terms of our agreement by that point that he would consider the previous 2 weeks
my 2 week notice and give me a favorable recommendation for my next employer. He
also promised me that he would hire someone asap to help me out with my
avalanche of work. So...after much consideration and apprehension I agreed to go
back. I really didn't know how I was going to afford to be unemployed anyway.
So far, so good. I'm leaving for Las Vegas on Wednesday for our annual training
seminar. I really look forward to a time when life slows down a bit, so I can be
back here to catch up with my friends, and get to know some of our new members.
Until then just know that I'm thinking of you all and I miss you lots!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Insurance companies making decisions for doctors - Naomi

2007-12-25 04:39:49

Thanks for the explaination. I shouldn't listen in to other peoples's
conversations, but I can't help myself. That makes more sense then a bunch of
accountants making those decisions!!! Naomi
Allison <allisonmarie22@...
Insurance companies have medical advisory councils made up of physicians and
specialists of all kinds. These councils make decisions as to what is considered
the safest and most cost effective way to administer benefits. With regards to
bariatric surgery I know that my insurance company, United Healthcare, has an
advisory council made up of bariatric surgeons from all over the country. That
council meets and makes the recommendations as to what should and should not be
covered under the benefit for WLS. So, don't be alarmed. People with no medical
background are not making those decisions. Often doctors don't understand this
process, or they are just angry that someone tells them how to do things and
their egos can't handle that, so they speak very negatively about it. Overall
though, it's a good thing I think because it keeps the standard of care
consistant, and ultimately serves to lower the overall cost of healthcare.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/167/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

It's almost funny at this point

2007-12-25 01:45:55

Well, Monday after I wrote to all of you saying that I had quit my job for good
my bosses boss called me and begged me to come back. He promised me my
promotion, no write up and a sizeable increase in pay. He said he would not be
back in the office to discuss things with me in detail until March 10th, but
that if I was not satisfied with the terms of our agreement by that point that
he would consider the previous 2 weeks my 2 week notice and give me a favorable
recommendation for my next employer. He also promised me that he would hire
someone asap to help me out with my avalanche of work. So...after much
consideration and apprehension I agreed to go back. I really didn't know how I
was going to afford to be unemployed anyway.
So far, so good. I'm leaving for Las Vegas on Wednesday for our annual training
seminar. I really look forward to a time when life slows down a bit, so I can
be back here to catch up with my friends, and get to know some of our new
members. Until then just know that I'm thinking of you all and I miss you lots!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/167/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-24 11:03:48

Lora-
That's really awesome! I'm so thrilled for you. I'm doing a mini-happy dance
of my own!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/167/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Insurance companies making decisions for doctors - Naomi

2007-12-24 08:58:53

Naomi-
Insurance companies have medical advisory councils made up of physicians and
specialists of all kinds. These councils make decisions as to what is
considered the safest and most cost effective way to administer benefits. With
regards to bariatric surgery I know that my insurance company, United
Healthcare, has an advisory council made up of bariatric surgeons from all over
the country. That council meets and makes the recommendations as to what should
and should not be covered under the benefit for WLS. So, don't be alarmed.
People with no medical background are not making those decisions. Often doctors
don't understand this process, or they are just angry that someone tells them
how to do things and their egos can't handle that, so they speak very negatively
about it. Overall though, it's a good thing I think because it keeps the
standard of care consistant, and ultimately serves to lower the overall cost of
healthcare.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/167/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] EAS 100% whey protein

2007-12-23 23:17:41

I purchased this and use it as well. Looks like you're on the right track to
me!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/167/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-23 18:18:07

Lora, you are doing so amazing! Think about all the issues you went through
just post op! You are amazing!!!
Lisa A
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I normally weight myself on Tuesdays and Saturdays. Yesterday I was
too busy and forgot so this morning I weighed myself. Down 110.5
pounds! Now, my goal was 111 pounds down (which would be 100 since
surgery plus the 11 pre-op) at six months out (which was technically
last week if you say that Sunday starts the week).
But, WTH, I'm counting today's weight as my 6-month weight and I'm
giving myself that extra half pound as "margin of error" for
water-weight, no BM yesterday or this morning, etc. (Why is it always
a half pound with me?!?) So, with my admittedly less than water-tight
logic, I made my 6 month goal despite the blasted stall of the last
few weeks! Woo-hoo! Mini happy dance.
Lora
(-111 pounds (rounding up!), 6 months post-op)
Lisa A
284/271/168/135

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-23 17:03:57

That is an amazing amount of weight!!!! I am almost at that and I am out 10
months. My dr says age, and how many diets you have been on make a huge
difference in speed. I try not to be jealous, but sometimes I feel a little
jealous.
Lora <cicerogirl@...
and Saturdays. Yesterday I was
too busy and forgot so this morning I weighed myself. Down 110.5
pounds! Now, my goal was 111 pounds down (which would be 100 since
surgery plus the 11 pre-op) at six months out (which was technically
last week if you say that Sunday starts the week).
But, WTH, I'm counting today's weight as my 6-month weight and I'm
giving myself that extra half pound as "margin of error" for
water-weight, no BM yesterday or this morning, etc. (Why is it always
a half pound with me?!?) So, with my admittedly less than water-tight
logic, I made my 6 month goal despite the blasted stall of the last
few weeks! Woo-hoo! Mini happy dance.
Lora
(-111 pounds (rounding up!), 6 months post-op)

Re: EAS 100% whey protein

2007-12-23 04:34:49

Yes, the EAS stuff is good (as fr as nutrition). I haven't tried them
so I can't comment on taste or texture, but I know some others here
like them.
Lora
(-111 pounds, 6 month post-op)

Re: "Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-23 03:22:05

Good for you, Lora! I'm so proud of you!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

"Tower of Terror" sized weight drop!

2007-12-22 23:02:23

I normally weight myself on Tuesdays and Saturdays. Yesterday I was
too busy and forgot so this morning I weighed myself. Down 110.5
pounds! Now, my goal was 111 pounds down (which would be 100 since
surgery plus the 11 pre-op) at six months out (which was technically
last week if you say that Sunday starts the week).
But, WTH, I'm counting today's weight as my 6-month weight and I'm
giving myself that extra half pound as "margin of error" for
water-weight, no BM yesterday or this morning, etc. (Why is it always
a half pound with me?!?) So, with my admittedly less than water-tight
logic, I made my 6 month goal despite the blasted stall of the last
few weeks! Woo-hoo! Mini happy dance.
Lora
(-111 pounds (rounding up!), 6 months post-op)

EAS 100% whey protein

2007-12-22 16:54:18

Hi all!!
I have a question. I purchased this and wanted to see if I was on the right
rrack or not
EAS 100% whey protein
calories==120
cal from fat=20
total fat 2g
trans fat 0
cholelsterol 65mg
total carbs 3g
dietary fiber <1g
sugar 1 g
protein 23 grams
calcium 139 mg
iron 1 mg
sodium 55 mg
potassium 210 mg
ingredients--protein blend (whey protein concentrate and whey protein isolate)
cocoa, nat and artif flavors, acesulfame, potassium and sucralose contains milk
ingredients
~sending well wishes to all!!~
Jo in MN

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] aargh... ^%@$# pain!/Lora

2007-12-22 08:10:58

My pain started under my left breast behind my rib cage. I had 2 CT scans,
numerous xrays, lab work, a complete Cardiac workup and nothing showed. Then
they sent me to a gatroenterologist for a colonoscopy and an EGD. I had those
and nothing showed up except a touch of Diverticulitis and one small polyp about
the size of a pinhead. Everything was normal. On discussing with my gastro dr.
my heart dr and two ER drs. they all say the same thing. It is musculoskeletal
pain. I had fibromyalgia bad before my surgery and for 14 months I had no pain
at all from it. My gastro dr. seems to believe that this is stemming from my
fibro. He gave a script for Librax and a pain pill (Vicodin) to take when I am
in pain and now the pain is gone. and has been now for about 3 weeks. Before
that I hurt for several weeks. My pain would radiate alway into my back under
my shoulder blade, down my left arm mimicing a heart attack/ It would hurt for
hours like someone was stabbing me
with a knife. At times so hard that it would take my breath.
Just a thought that you might look into it being in the muscles.
Hugs,
Jackie K.
321/186/180
Lap RNY 10-31-06
Lora <cicerogirl@...
The pain is in the kidney area on the left side of my back. SOme days
it is just a dull ache, some days it doesn't bother me at all except
when I lay on that side or twist that direction, and some days it
hurts like the devil even if I don't move.
Lora

Re: aargh... ^%@$# pain!

2007-12-22 06:43:08

Lora,
How frustrating! I don't think I'd be handling all this very well.
You have my sympathies.
Gosh, I hope you can get some kind of an answer. More importantly, I
hope they can find and treat the source of your pain.
Jill
-32.4

Re: MSG ....interesting read

2007-12-21 23:41:16

And let's not forget that other pervasive, obesity maker that is in so
many foods and drinks: high fructose corn syrup. It has many of the
same effects.
Jill
-32.4

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] aargh... ^%@$# pain!

2007-12-21 17:24:03

Lora,
I have missed some of you emails. Just exactly where is your pain? I am
asking because I have had some pain that has been unexplainable but I have an
explaination from my last visit that might give you some insight.
Hugs,
Jackie K.
Lora <cicerogirl@...
Had yet ANOTHER scan today (and, of course, there is almost no pain
today {grrr...}). It was done by someone that I used to know from
church, and I was telling her about the whole "it's a mass causing the
pain... no wait, that's not it... it's a kidney stone... no wait,
maybe it ISN'T a stone after all" and multiple-scans saga.
After giving the appropriate "I'm not a doctor, just a technician
trained to look only for specific things" disclaimer, she said that
she does not see any stones. They gave me the xray films and a CD
with all the CT images on them to take back to the urologist, so I
looked at the images myself (cool stuff... would be even MORE cool if
I could tell what some of it was!). I can see the kidneys clearly on
one of picture series and I don't see any bright white stones either.
So now I'm afraid that I am back to square one of having no idea what
it is. I'm certainly not going to waste my time going back to that
urologist if it shows nothing. I'm so frustrated. This pain is NOT
in my head, but it continues to be so freaking intermittent...
The only thing I can think to do is just bite the bullet and go sit
around the ER for hours the next time the pain gets bad... and then
they'll probably want to do ANOTEHR scan (they are $3K a piece, but
the allowed insurance amount is just over half that, which means that
my out-of-pocket is about $175 for EACH scan!)...
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] calcium citrate vs carbnbonate absorption after WLS

2007-12-21 11:01:43

My surgeon prescribed calcium carbonate after my surgery! I didn't say
anything, I just don't take it. I think I will show him this.
Pat
Lora <cicerogirl@...
I was particularly interested in the absorption figures for calcium
(4% vs 45%)...
http://www.ajhp.org/cgi/content/full/63/19/1852
Lora

calcium citrate vs carbnbonate absorption after WLS

2007-12-21 04:02:31

I was particularly interested in the absorption figures for calcium
(4% vs 45%)...
http://www.ajhp.org/cgi/content/full/63/19/1852
Lora

Re: Costco &amp; Weight Watchers scale

2007-12-21 00:15:52

Now why am I not surprised that you INTENDED to prolong the early
stages and now are nibbling chicken salad samples at Costo?!? LOL
I don't intende this as criticism of anyone's surgeon, but I find it
very odd... it would even be amusing were it not for the seriousness
of WLS... that some surgeons require such an extended period of
liquids, purees, etc. when others (like mine) have you eating soft
foods before you leave the hospital and many solid foods in another
week as your pouch will tolerate). I mean, clearly it doesn't do any
damage to the pouch to eat right away... so I don't get it.
Lora

Costco &amp; Weight Watchers scale

2007-12-20 08:39:00

I went to Costco today and bought the Weight Watchers scale. It was
quite a bit cheaper than the scale I already had, but appears to be
more accurate!! It weighs about 5 lbs less than my scale, which makes
it the same as the surgeons scale. I say "about" because it goes to a
10th of a lb and my other one only goes to half pounds.
While I was at Costco I succumbed to some of the freebie nibbles... I
passed up anything with bread or sugar, but did nibble some chicken
salad, a tiny bite of bratwurst, and a tiny bite of pork loin. It all
sat well :)) Of all people, I ran into my NUT at Costco!!! She saw
all good things I can have, and the scale, in my cart. She didn't see
me nibbling though!
I am 99% sure I can eat salad at this stage (23 days out) because I ate
a piece of celery with some cream cheese, and it went down well, stayed
down, and didn't cause any discomfort!!! yipeeee!!!
LMAO... before surgery I told myself that I was going to prolong each
stage... do clear liquids, full liquids, & pureed foods a little longer
than I had to... just to be super cautious, and because so many others
had to do them longer than I was told. That plan sure went out the
window!!!!
Pat

Re: 9 Pounds......

2007-12-20 07:36:17

Hi Cathy,
It sounds like you need to go back to the beginning as they say. I
have not had to do that because I am still not able to eat much. I
don't know why but just a little of mostly anything makes me feel like
I am going to burst. I know I am not getting nearly enough protein in
so I am thinking of doing the shakes again. I just had a whole slew of
lab work done so I will find out just how bad I am.
Another thing, when is the last time you saw your surgeon? Have you
talked to him about the problems you have been having??
Good Luck and hope you are feeling better soon.
~~Tracy
298/132/150

aargh... ^%@$# pain!

2007-12-20 07:08:52

Had yet ANOTHER scan today (and, of course, there is almost no pain
today {grrr...}). It was done by someone that I used to know from
church, and I was telling her about the whole "it's a mass causing the
pain... no wait, that's not it... it's a kidney stone... no wait,
maybe it ISN'T a stone after all" and multiple-scans saga.
After giving the appropriate "I'm not a doctor, just a technician
trained to look only for specific things" disclaimer, she said that
she does not see any stones. They gave me the xray films and a CD
with all the CT images on them to take back to the urologist, so I
looked at the images myself (cool stuff... would be even MORE cool if
I could tell what some of it was!). I can see the kidneys clearly on
one of picture series and I don't see any bright white stones either.
So now I'm afraid that I am back to square one of having no idea what
it is. I'm certainly not going to waste my time going back to that
urologist if it shows nothing. I'm so frustrated. This pain is NOT
in my head, but it continues to be so freaking intermittent...
The only thing I can think to do is just bite the bullet and go sit
around the ER for hours the next time the pain gets bad... and then
they'll probably want to do ANOTEHR scan (they are $3K a piece, but
the allowed insurance amount is just over half that, which means that
my out-of-pocket is about $175 for EACH scan!)...
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] MSG ....interesting read

2007-12-19 20:56:23

I always wondered if msg was why I crave Chinese food... Naomi
ddrei_glas <ddrei_glas@...
http://www.rense.com/general64/msg.htm
D
:-)

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] 9 Pounds......

2007-12-19 11:29:46

Cathy, what do you mean real food.... Naomi
cathymonsell <Sarrah345@...
pounds.......to get back to 163. It seems
like such a monumental thing to achieve! I tell you guys, when you
are around a year out like me, EVERYTHING changes, just when you
start to really get used to things.
You can start to gain weight again, and I hate that it's happening to
me!!!!!!!
At this point, I don't even know what to eat! Seriously!
I'm almost resigned to go back to real basics, protein shakes, water,
stuff from the very beginning. But the thing about that is if I
eat "real food".....the weight I lose comes back.
I am truly in a twist over this. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Hugs,
Cathy1
317/172/140

MSG ....interesting read

2007-12-19 11:15:34

http://www.rense.com/general64/msg.htm
D
:-)

9 Pounds......

2007-12-19 05:27:21

I still have to lose 9 pounds.......to get back to 163. It seems
like such a monumental thing to achieve! I tell you guys, when you
are around a year out like me, EVERYTHING changes, just when you
start to really get used to things.
You can start to gain weight again, and I hate that it's happening to
me!!!!!!!
At this point, I don't even know what to eat! Seriously!
I'm almost resigned to go back to real basics, protein shakes, water,
stuff from the very beginning. But the thing about that is if I
eat "real food".....the weight I lose comes back.
I am truly in a twist over this. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Hugs,
Cathy1
317/172/140

Re: SEVERELY OFF-TOPIC: NEED YOUR HELP

2007-12-18 22:07:21

so sorry to to hear that!

SEVERELY OFF-TOPIC: NEED YOUR HELP

2007-12-18 15:21:37

HELP!!!! SOMEONE HAS HACKED INTO MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT AND MANAGED TO GET A PAYMENT
(FROM MY CHECKING ACCOUNT) FOR ALMOST 800 $$$$$$$$$!!!! IT SAYS TRANSACTION
COMPLETED BUT STILL HAS NOT POSTED (THANK GOD) TO MY BANK ACCOUNT. . . . . THIS
IS GOING TO CAUSE ME UMPTEEN HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN INSUFFICIENT FUNDS
FEES!!!!!!!!!!!! PAYPAL AND MY BANK ARE AWARE OF IT AND KNOW ITS NOT ME. . BUT
CANNOT STOP IT. . . . . . HELP!!! ANYSUGGESTIONS?
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
no surgery date yet
CW 275

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I added pictures

2007-12-18 03:11:04

Wow Debby! I am impressed. I wish I could run. I just noticed that you don't
have any "before" pics... except the one from 9 years ago. You have certainly
come a long way since then. Was that about the weight you were at the time of
your surgery?

Pat
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, debra hill <debbyk9009@...
From: debra hill <debbyk9009@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] I added pictures

File - Medications and Bariatric Surgery.pdf

2007-12-18 02:25:38

File : Medications and Bariatric Surgery.pdf
Description : Presentation from Dr. Dennis Smith at Advanced Obesity Surgery
regarding medications

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Judy / Tiffany

2007-12-17 19:27:31

Hey,
When I was in there on Tuesday I asked after her. They said she was doing
fine and comming in for a check up later on that day.
Love,
Ilsa

Re: raw onions &amp; jalapeno! (sorry Lora)

2007-12-17 09:12:48

Cool! I wish I had a nutritionist at work making me lunch!!
Instead...I've got two whiney kids at home insisting on McDonalds every
chance they get! Sounds like a real nice lunch Pat.
Cindy

MARIA'S SURGERY - NO UPDATE Available

2007-12-17 03:10:31

Hi all, well I was supposed to be Maria's angel but as of right now I have not
heard from anyone. I emailed Maria a couple of times and she did not respond,
so I'm a little concerned but she probably was a mess getting ready and didn't
have time to get online. I went through all her emails to see if she filled out
the member questionnaire so maybe it would say the hospital name and I could
call but no luck. I also checked the group site to see if the questionnaire was
in our files but nope. So I guess all we can do is wait until she returns
online :(

Judy -- 26 DAYS TO GO
262/234
HW/CW
MY WLS BLOG: http://judywlsjourney.blogspot.com/
JUDY'S JOURNEY
http://www.myspace.com/nynativecagirl

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] raw onions &amp; jalapeno! (sorry Lora)

2007-12-17 00:45:40

Pat,
I bet you could too. Enjoy!
Debby
"pat.0913" <pat.0913@...
ok, I think I officially have a cast iron pouch. Today at work the
nutritionist made fish tacos. I didn't touch the rice or tortilla, but
I did have some tilapia with avocado, tomato, onion, jalapeno, and
cilantro... and it sat well!! I kept waiting to be in pain or be sick,
but nothing happened! I bet I could eat salad :)
Pat

raw onions &amp; jalapeno! (sorry Lora)

2007-12-16 23:12:29

ok, I think I officially have a cast iron pouch. Today at work the
nutritionist made fish tacos. I didn't touch the rice or tortilla, but
I did have some tilapia with avocado, tomato, onion, jalapeno, and
cilantro... and it sat well!! I kept waiting to be in pain or be sick,
but nothing happened! I bet I could eat salad :)
Pat

Liquid Diet and Meds Begin Today....

2007-12-16 10:50:05

Well, after a restless toss and turn night (was up until 2am) I
finally got some sleep and my last day before surgery is finally
here!!!!
I start the Golytely at 12:00 then Erythromycin, Neomycin and Pepcid
at alternating intervals throughout the day, and I can only be on
clear liquid diet, oh fun!
I still need to pack my stuff for the hospital some time today and I
promised my family that I would try out my ice cream maker for them
today ~ I plan to make EggFace's SF Soy Ice Creams.
My Mom asked me again today, "Are you absolutely sure you want to
have this surgery, you are doing so good on losing weight right
now". I know she is worried for me and my family but I am ready for
this, I am going to do it ~ I have faith in God that he will bless me
and take care of me. I will become the stronger woman that I am
suppose to be because of this tool, it will guide me into health and
wellness for the rest of my life.
Well, need to run.
Amy
Pre-Op 254 (1 Pound UNDER GOAL!!!)
24 Hours and Counting!!!!!!!

Re: STAMP OF APPROVAL RECEIVED!

2007-12-16 08:03:56

Amy,
That's wonderful!! I'm sure you'll be able to work out a surgery date
that will work for all of you. Remember, even if you don't get the
date you want, you *will* get the surgery.
So nice of Housing to provide you with a built-in exercise program
with the move! New house, new you! It's also a great chance to toss
all those foods you don't want to have in the house after your
surgery!
Jill
-31.4

Re: checking in

2007-12-16 01:29:50

Valeri,
That's scary! Please keep us posted about what's going on with this.
Jill
-31.4

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] STAMP OF APPROVAL RECEIVED!

2007-12-15 16:38:06

Congrats Amy. I'm happy for you.
Pauleen
Your Secret Sister <vickisecretsister@...
HI! THE SURGEON'S OFFICE JUST CALLED AND TRICARE APPROVED ME FOR SURGERY! 100%
COVERED PROCEDURE. . . NO CO-PAY! PRAISE GOD!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY ABOUT THAT. . . . . BUT STILL RIDIN' THAT ROLLER COASTER!
THEY SET ME UP FOR PRE-OP PSYCH EVAL, NUTRITION CLASS, AND EDUCATION CLASS ON
THE SAME DAY SINCE I AM DRIVING SIX HOURS TO GET THERE. . . THEN THEY SAID THEY
WOULD GO AHEAD AND GET ME IN TO SEE THE SURGEON ON THE SAME DAY (IF POSSIBLE). .
IF NOT POSSIBLE, THEN I WOULD SEE HIM THE FOLLOWING DAY. . THEY ARE DOING THEIR
UTMOST BEST TO ACCOMODATE ME. . . . . .
BUT ONCE AGAIN HUBBY IS RAINING ON MY PARADE. . . I CALLED HIM TO HAVE HIM LOOK
AT HIS SCHEDULE FOR THE AFFECTED DAYS. . . . FIRST HE SAYS NO PROB. . . .. THEN
HE DISCOVERS HE HAS MANDATORY TRAINING THOSE TWO DAYS!!
I AM CURRENTLY WAITING FOR THE NURSE TO CALL ME BACK TO GIVE ME THE APPT. TIME
TO SEE THE ACTUAL SURGEON. . . . GUESS WHEN SHE CALLS I WILL HAVE TO CANCEL AND
RESCHEDULE!!!!!!!!
SO CLOSE YET SO FAR AWAY!!! ARGH!
AND ON A DIFFERENT NOTE. . . FOUND OUT YESTERDAY THE BASE RECEIVED THE FUNDING
TO DEMOLISH OUR HOUSE (WE LIVE IN BASE HOUSING) SO WE WILL BE MOVING TO A NEW
HOUSE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT MONTH. . . . AND MY SURGERY COULD ALSO BE IN THE NEXT
MONTH! NO REST FOR THE WEARY!
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
no surgery date yet
CW 275

STAMP OF APPROVAL RECEIVED!

2007-12-15 15:30:26

HI! THE SURGEON'S OFFICE JUST CALLED AND TRICARE APPROVED ME FOR SURGERY! 100%
COVERED PROCEDURE. . . NO CO-PAY! PRAISE GOD!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY ABOUT THAT. . . . . BUT STILL RIDIN' THAT ROLLER COASTER!
THEY SET ME UP FOR PRE-OP PSYCH EVAL, NUTRITION CLASS, AND EDUCATION CLASS ON
THE SAME DAY SINCE I AM DRIVING SIX HOURS TO GET THERE. . . THEN THEY SAID THEY
WOULD GO AHEAD AND GET ME IN TO SEE THE SURGEON ON THE SAME DAY (IF POSSIBLE).
. IF NOT POSSIBLE, THEN I WOULD SEE HIM THE FOLLOWING DAY. . THEY ARE DOING
THEIR UTMOST BEST TO ACCOMODATE ME. . . . . .
BUT ONCE AGAIN HUBBY IS RAINING ON MY PARADE. . . I CALLED HIM TO HAVE HIM LOOK
AT HIS SCHEDULE FOR THE AFFECTED DAYS. . . . FIRST HE SAYS NO PROB. . . .. THEN
HE DISCOVERS HE HAS MANDATORY TRAINING THOSE TWO DAYS!!
I AM CURRENTLY WAITING FOR THE NURSE TO CALL ME BACK TO GIVE ME THE APPT. TIME
TO SEE THE ACTUAL SURGEON. . . . GUESS WHEN SHE CALLS I WILL HAVE TO CANCEL AND
RESCHEDULE!!!!!!!!
SO CLOSE YET SO FAR AWAY!!! ARGH!
AND ON A DIFFERENT NOTE. . . FOUND OUT YESTERDAY THE BASE RECEIVED THE FUNDING
TO DEMOLISH OUR HOUSE (WE LIVE IN BASE HOUSING) SO WE WILL BE MOVING TO A NEW
HOUSE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT MONTH. . . . AND MY SURGERY COULD ALSO BE IN THE NEXT
MONTH! NO REST FOR THE WEARY!
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
no surgery date yet
CW 275

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Closet Woes

2007-12-15 05:56:33

Jill, the clothing thing is strange. I have been on a zillion diets and my
sizes actually are slower changing this time?? I am changing, but when I try
to purchase items they still don't fit right. I do sew and I have rescued
quite a bit of my clothes. there is a limit, but heming has helped quite a
bit. I also wore all stretch with elastic waist pants so they are easy to
adjust. I have taken them in on the sides, hemmed them and also lowered the
waist bands!!! I am to the point were I need to go out and purchase a pair of
shoes (I only wear SAS so it is an investment) that I won't walk out of because
they are falling off, and I also need an outfit suitable for a deposition. I
don't even know what type of outfit that is for sure?? I guess a suit type
outfit with slacks. I don't do skirts because of my ugly shoes that I wear.
Wow, I'm actually making purchasing an outfit sound like water boarding
torture!!! Naomi
Jill <jsplds@...
I hope you are right about the 3-6 month range weight drop, I really,
really do! I'm doing everything I can to give myself the chance for
maximum weight loss.
My poor closet looks pathetic right now. I have a few items I need to
purge since I've lost more weight. When I've done that, here's what
I'll be left with:
2 prs. jeans - fit, but getting pretty loose
1 jumper - fits ok, but loose, may get another 2 weeks from it
1 blazer - fits like the jumper
3 short sleeve pull over shirts
2 short sleeve button down shirts (purchased yesterday)
1 dress with no tag - perhaps a size 10? too small for me yet
I am seriously in need of clothing. I have a hard time making myself
purchase clothing, even from the thrift stores. None of the clothing
I have in my closet is original clothing that I started with. I've
had to acquire what I currently have.
Before surgery, it used to be that I'd drop a size about every 10
lbs. lost. Now, it doesn't take that much weight for me to drop a
size. I go try on clothes to see what size I currently am, but rarely
purchase.
Oh, and my feet are shrinking. I tried on a cute pair of shoes last
night, and my usual size was too big for me. I tried on some of my
shoes when I got home. They are too big, too. <sigh
Who ever thought I'd be complaining about needing smaller clothes?
Too bad I'm not a seamstress.
Jill
-31.4

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] checking in

2007-12-15 05:06:06

Valeri, I am sorry to hear that and hope you post when you find out exactly
what's going on and what it means. Naomi
vjshoem <vjshoem@...
I do not post too often cuz I am still sitting on the bench waiting for
the call. AND I am fearful that it may be delayed now. Here is my
story. I went to see my PCP this morning to get s referral for the
ortho doc. I want to be on her list for post GBS and am having some
serious pain in my shoulder. She fixed my right shoulder in July of
2006, but I waited 2 months too long to go back witihn a year. So at
my PCP visit, the took my blood pressure and weight etc. My BP was
141 over 51. pretty good.... but my heart rate was 38...very slow.
SO I had to go get an EKG...gggrrrrrr' The EKG for you medical saavy
people, the EKG says slow sinus arrhrtemia otherwise normal ekg.
I have to go back on Monday morning to get a heart monitor. Now I am
very worried this will put me to the bottom of the stack....
Valeri
Lodi

checking in

2007-12-14 21:06:44

HI,
I do not post too often cuz I am still sitting on the bench waiting for
the call. AND I am fearful that it may be delayed now. Here is my
story. I went to see my PCP this morning to get s referral for the
ortho doc. I want to be on her list for post GBS and am having some
serious pain in my shoulder. She fixed my right shoulder in July of
2006, but I waited 2 months too long to go back witihn a year. So at
my PCP visit, the took my blood pressure and weight etc. My BP was
141 over 51. pretty good.... but my heart rate was 38...very slow.
SO I had to go get an EKG...gggrrrrrr' The EKG for you medical saavy
people, the EKG says slow sinus arrhrtemia otherwise normal ekg.
I have to go back on Monday morning to get a heart monitor. Now I am
very worried this will put me to the bottom of the stack....
Valeri
Lodi

Closet Woes

2007-12-14 13:12:01

Naomi,
I hope you are right about the 3-6 month range weight drop, I really,
really do! I'm doing everything I can to give myself the chance for
maximum weight loss.
My poor closet looks pathetic right now. I have a few items I need to
purge since I've lost more weight. When I've done that, here's what
I'll be left with:
2 prs. jeans - fit, but getting pretty loose
1 jumper - fits ok, but loose, may get another 2 weeks from it
1 blazer - fits like the jumper
3 short sleeve pull over shirts
2 short sleeve button down shirts (purchased yesterday)
1 dress with no tag - perhaps a size 10? too small for me yet
I am seriously in need of clothing. I have a hard time making myself
purchase clothing, even from the thrift stores. None of the clothing
I have in my closet is original clothing that I started with. I've
had to acquire what I currently have.
Before surgery, it used to be that I'd drop a size about every 10
lbs. lost. Now, it doesn't take that much weight for me to drop a
size. I go try on clothes to see what size I currently am, but rarely
purchase.
Oh, and my feet are shrinking. I tried on a cute pair of shoes last
night, and my usual size was too big for me. I tried on some of my
shoes when I got home. They are too big, too. <sigh
Who ever thought I'd be complaining about needing smaller clothes?
Too bad I'm not a seamstress.
Jill
-31.4

Where Are You?

2007-12-14 09:42:06

Ally,
How are you doing? You've been in my thoughts.
Jill

bad experience with filter placement

2007-12-14 06:05:06

To make a very long story short, the vena cava filter that I was
supposed to have put in at 11am did not get put in until almost 7pm.
By the time it was 4pm, I had not eaten or had anything to drink for
almost 20 hours. I had a pounding headache, my hands were shaking like
crazy, I was dizzy just laying in the hospital bed, and was getting
REALLY grouchy. They finally gave me a dextrose IV bag to get my
blood sugar up. (Lots of people on OH told me that fasting for 12
hours or so wouldn't be a problem even after I told them that I am
already shaky when I get up in the morning until I eat/drink
something... so much for that reassurance.)
Once they finally started the procedure (low dose IV pain meds and
some Versed (sp?), plus a local on the groin area), he hit an artery
which sent a giant stabbing pain all the way down my leg. He ordered
anotehr dose of the meds and told the nurse to prep the other side.
It went in fine on that side (no discomfort at all), but I have an
arterial plug in on the first side and that area hurts like hell every
time I stand up, sit down, walk, or otehrweise move my leg too much.
How did he hit an artery?!? Probably rushing because he was more than
6 hours behind and he wanted to go home, too... {grrr...}
Mom was so stressed out by the whole thing (the hospital just did not
have its act together yesterday, so she didn't get much to eat
yesterday either) that she's taking us all out to the best place in
town for filet mignon tonight... so at least I will get a few yummy
meals out of the ordeal.
Back to the couch...
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I'M SO EXCITED DOUBLE WOOHOO

2007-12-14 01:08:08

I got the psyche appt. yippee
They just called "per Dr. Chu's instructions we are setting your psyche"
So it's for 4/23 and I know it seems far but I don't care, I am in! she put me
on cancellation list because she saw I live close by and can run over there! she
said people do cancel so I will probably go before April 23. OH MY GOD I am so
excited I can't stand it.
Judy - 6 weeks to go for Travis
"Happily Watching the Scale Go Down"
California
262/241

Re: Got an e-mail from Cathy1

2007-12-13 10:50:01

I got hold of Cathy on the phone on the way to the pool this morning,
and she sounded great! Hopefully Kevin will have her computer back up
to speed again really fast. She's delighted to have the scale going
down again.
Jill
-31.4

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Official "after" pic

2007-12-13 08:54:53

that is wonderful Lora. See, you have been doing great. Keep it up!!!
Lisa A
284/154/135 ~ 19# to go!
--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Lora <cicerogirl@...
From: Lora <cicerogirl@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] Official "after" pic

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Protein Absorption

2007-12-13 01:52:53

the link didnt work Jill
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW166**GW125-130

Official "after" pic

2007-12-12 23:48:36

It's waiting for approval. Yeah, I'm still 41 pounds from goal, but I
have lost everything there was to lose in my face and shoulders so I
had my offical "after" headshot taken 10 days ago. My official
"before" shot is already in my album.
My surgeon's office asked if I would be willing to be on their website
as a "success" story, and onc they saw the poctures, they asked if I
would be silling to be on their wall of success stories in the waiting
room! (I have mixed feelings about that, since they do lots of
non-WLS surgeries there, and it's all one waiting room.... but it's so
nice to be asked!!!)
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] So many questions???????/Judy

2007-12-12 10:44:11

It is the same Drs. Barnes. They are awesome.
Tiffany has lost over 200 lbs.
"Judy R." <losingforlife08@...
Jackie, the Dr Barnes from Big Medicine? the ones treating Tiffany in
Louisiana? that is cool.
Judy - 49 DAYS to go for Travis
"Happily Watching the Scale Go Down"
California
262/241

I'm back.......

2007-12-12 06:56:18

Dear Friends,
I'm sorry to have worried you all. I wasn't upset at you all or
anything, but my computer was on the fritz.
Y'all have been so wonderful and supportive of me and I can't tell you
how much your concern about me feels!! Wonderful!
I'm doing better and I've gone from about 176 to 171.8 in a few days.
I have been trying really hard to get back on track and go back to
basics.
Thank you so much for being here for me! Jill, Lora, and everyone
else, thank you!
Love and many hugs,
Cathy1
Lap RNY 2/22/07
317/171.8/140

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I'm back.......

2007-12-12 04:59:39

We forgive you.... but next time your computer is on the fritz, you must *call*
all of us!!!
Pat
cathymonsell <Sarrah345@...
Dear Friends,
I'm sorry to have worried you all. I wasn't upset at you all or
anything, but my computer was on the fritz.
Y'all have been so wonderful and supportive of me and I can't tell you
how much your concern about me feels!! Wonderful!
I'm doing better and I've gone from about 176 to 171.8 in a few days.
I have been trying really hard to get back on track and go back to
basics.
Thank you so much for being here for me! Jill, Lora, and everyone
else, thank you!
Love and many hugs,
Cathy1
Lap RNY 2/22/07
317/171.8/140

Re: Susan in ONEderland

2007-12-11 19:41:40

Cathy,
Where have you been? We have been so worried. How are you doing?
Are you looking forward to the better you? How is the other group
about emotional eating treating you?
Lizanne
251/175/125

Got an e-mail from Cathy1

2007-12-11 19:16:07

She's been doing better but their computer has had some issues. (She
has dropped three pounds in the last few days!)
For the board: "... please tell everyone that I love them for caring
about me and about my weight losss....plus that I'll probably be back
late tonight if not, tomorrow!"
Lora

Re: Protein Absorption

2007-12-11 06:12:42

The link didn't work . . . try this instead:
http://tinyurl.com/2lxglb
Jill
-31.4

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Official "after" pic

2007-12-11 03:43:06

Lora,
Your picture is beautiful and your hair looks great, I can't tell you lost it.
Congratulations on your success, What a difference from the before. You were
always beautiful but there is a huge difference now.
Debby
--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Lora <cicerogirl@...
From: Lora <cicerogirl@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] Official "after" pic

Protein Absorption

2007-12-10 23:46:56

I've done some research this morning on the question of protein
absorption, and I think I've found some reliable information that is
helpful. It's certainly more reliable than the self-proclaimed

Re: 3 week update

2007-12-10 17:20:40

You are TOO funny! Congrats on the loss (AND on not having any pain
to speak of AND on being so tolerant of what you're eating and
drinking... ok, I need to quit before I get depressed... this has all
been WAY too easy for you!!! LOL )
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] 3 week update

2007-12-10 12:33:07

Pat thats excellent. congrats.
Judy - 47 DAYS to go for Travis
"Happily Watching the Scale Go Down"
California
262/241

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Liquid Diet and Meds Begin Today....

2007-12-10 03:39:11

Amy,
Good luck with your surgery! I'm sure you will have no problems and come thru
with flying colors. My mom was also worried about me with my gastric bypass
surgery. I had mine done in Minneapolis so 2 weeks before surgery, I flew her
out to be with me. She had a chance to meet my surgeon and nurse prior to my
surgery and asked many questions. I did fax a lot of info to her but it helped
her meeting my doctor and his staff. She stayed with me until 10 days out.
Then when the drain tube finally came out, my doctor gave me the ok to fly. So
I flew back with my mom to Georgia where I recovered until it was time for me to
come back to Minneapolis. I will keep you in my prayers as you get closer to
your surgery time.

Theresa in GA
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, the_sander_family <the_sander_family@...
From: the_sander_family <the_sander_family@...
Subject: [WLS Friendship & Support] Liquid Diet and Meds Begin Today....

3 week update

2007-12-09 20:48:49

I saw my surgeon today for my three week checkup... and I have
officially lost 18 lbs so far. I had really counted on losing 100 lbs
my first week, but I guess I'll settle for that. :)
Pat
269/251/140
SW/ CW/ GW

lost a pound.

2007-12-09 16:14:58

I finally lost a pound today. That makes 2 for the month of June. With 3 more
days in the month left I'm hoping 3 more magically disappear so I can have a
respectable 5 pound loss. Don't think it will happen but I'm going to take my 1
pound and be happy about it, at least the scale finally moved!
Debby

Re: In Trouble

2007-12-09 13:54:42

Hi, Becca. First... I'm going to ignore the whole doughnut thing
partially because you already KNOW that was a mistake and partially
because I *really* miss them and don't even want to think about them! LOL
Just a couple of observations: The calories and fat in that 3 oz of
nuts is A LOT compared to the relatively low amount of fat and
calories in other kinds of protein. I was told to limit nuts (which I
frequently use as one of my snacks) to 1 ounce because they are simply
too high in fat and calories for our overall meal plan/diet. Half of
the calories you should be eating for the day were taken up just by
the nuts.
Two grams of protein for breakfast isn't much to try to start your day
(and kickstart your metabolism). And having two of those processed
cheese and cracker snacks is also a lot of carbs and fat for VERY
little protein (Only 4g protein for both of them, but 20g of fat, 200
calories, and 24g of carbs for the two of them). Even having just an
ounce of reduced fat cheese would give you 5-6g of protein for fewer
calories and fat (depends on the specific cheese, but the light string
cheese I get is only 60 calories, 9g of protein, 3 grams of fat, and
only 1 carb... so if you double that you can compare it to the two
snacks you are having).
The Ramen noodles and baked chips are both very high in carbohydrates,
so you don't want to eat much of either.
My biggest suggestion would be to replace the processed foods you are
eating (cheese snacks, chips, ramen noodles) with "raw" foods. BY
raw, I don't mean uncooked... just unprocessed... chicken, fish, beef,
natural cheese, beans even. You will not get nearly the calories, fat
and carbs of the processed items and will get MORE protein. Three
ounces of chicken, for example, has only about 90 calories, 2 grams of
fat, NO carbs, and about 15-18g of protein!
It's good that you are recognizing that there is a potential problem
looming ahead and that you want to address it right away. Did your
surgeon give you any printed materials on what you should be eating
post-op?
Lora
(-106 pounds) ... and holding.... :(

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] In Trouble

2007-12-09 07:23:14

Becca,
It's not the amount of food you're eating It's what. You may want to exchange
things like cheese and cracker packs to whole grain choices. A bowl of oatmeal
has the same calories but will fill you up longer and is a healthier choice.
Nuts are a great snack but 3 oz of meat will give you less calories and more
protein. I just tried a Kashi bar for the first time. It was not as good as
chips but it did have the crunch I wanted and is filled with whole grains and
nuts. It's so hard not to go back to the foods we love but you can do it. You
have almost lost a hundred pounds isn't that amazing. How you tried getting all
your food ready for the next day? Sometimes that helps me to not just grab what
is convienient
luv2bjessesgirl <luv2bjessesgirl@...
Okay guys it's me again. I am freaking out. I am five months out and
I am so worried about gaining my weight back. So far I have gone
from 281 lbs to 195 lbs. I am afriad I am going the wrong way
though. I am obsessed with what I eat. I am trying to keep up with
my protein, which I am doing pretty good on thanks to the protein
bullets but then I freak out about calories. I feel like I am eating
all the time because I can eat "normal" amounts now. Of course I
can't eat anywhere near what I used to eat, but its a lot compared to
what I have been eating for the last 5 months.
Breakfast:
1 cheese and cracker handi snack
100 calories 2 g protein
Snack:
3 oz. of peanuts
510 calories 21g protein
Lunch:
1.5 oz of tuna
90 cal. 20g protein
1/2 bag of baked lays chips
154 cal. 2 g protein
1 cheese and cracker handi snack
100 calories 2 g protein
Snack:
Krispy Kreme Doughnut (God I know and I feel SO GUILTY!)
200 cal. 4 g protein
Protein Shot :
42 g protein
Dinner:
1 c ramen noodles
296 cal. 6g protein
2 hersheys kisses
****************************************************************
I feel like I am eating too much. Can someone please help me with my
meal plan? I am not leaving near my surgeon or nut any longer and
haven't met with either of them since one month post op. I feel like
I am doing this blind and I am so scared. Please help......I am so
afraid of getting big again. I am even having nightmares about food
chasing me....Please help..
Becca

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] WOOHOO

2007-12-09 00:44:30

Good News. it really does pay to be proactive. Kaiser allows us to email our
doctors. soooo - when I hit my 5 lbs from goal I emailed the surgeon and told
her, you know really nice. like i did it, all is well how are you....
got an email from her today saying "good job!! I will make sure Nancy pulls your
file and schedules your psyche appt"
YIPPEE YIPPEE
I hope they listen to the surgeon and call me.. I am excited because at least
she is aware and maybe she'll make sure I get my psyche appt done.
Judy - 47 DAYS to go for Travis
"Happily Watching the Scale Go Down"
California
262/241

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Sample Menu - Protein

2007-12-08 12:09:30

Cindy,
My nut told me I could stop the protein drinks because I get adequate protein
in my diet. She didn't think it was necessary to have the shakes. I'm covering
all my bases though. I'm going to continue until I see how much hair loss I
have.
Debby
jcsuter <jcsuter@...
Hi All,
This is a great group. I am a diligent reader/lurker but I just don't
make time to post as often as I would like. But...I feel like I've
really gotten to know most of you. I have a question about the protein
issue. On another board, they preach the necessity to drink the
protein shakes for life. That we don't have the necessary acid to
break down the protein in our pouch so we absorb so very little of the
protein we would get in foods. But, it doesn't seem like many of you,
who are 6 months and beyond post op, are drinkng at least 60 gr. of
protein shakes/drinks per day. Do you mind me asking if this is
following your surgeon's recommendations or your nutritionist? Is this
something you have considered (in other words...do you not think it is
necessary to continue w/ the protein drinks).
Thanks for your support and help! (Especially Jill....I'm still in your
corner girl!)
Cindy - NC
Surgery....March 6th

Re: Salads &amp; eating out

2007-12-08 05:51:35

Hi Lizanne!
I think it has a lot to do with the portion sizes they feed you at
the restaurants and timing. When I'm out and with family or friends,
I'm concentrating more on the conversation than I am the food, so I
tend to eat less. At home, I also give myself more time to eat (20
minutes) but when in a restaurant, I don't want to hold people up so
I just give up. Does that make sense?
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/177/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

In Trouble

2007-12-08 03:07:59

Okay guys it's me again. I am freaking out. I am five months out and
I am so worried about gaining my weight back. So far I have gone
from 281 lbs to 195 lbs. I am afriad I am going the wrong way
though. I am obsessed with what I eat. I am trying to keep up with
my protein, which I am doing pretty good on thanks to the protein
bullets but then I freak out about calories. I feel like I am eating
all the time because I can eat "normal" amounts now. Of course I
can't eat anywhere near what I used to eat, but its a lot compared to
what I have been eating for the last 5 months.
Breakfast:
1 cheese and cracker handi snack
100 calories 2 g protein
Snack:
3 oz. of peanuts
510 calories 21g protein
Lunch:
1.5 oz of tuna
90 cal. 20g protein
1/2 bag of baked lays chips
154 cal. 2 g protein
1 cheese and cracker handi snack
100 calories 2 g protein
Snack:
Krispy Kreme Doughnut (God I know and I feel SO GUILTY!)
200 cal. 4 g protein
Protein Shot :
42 g protein
Dinner:
1 c ramen noodles
296 cal. 6g protein
2 hersheys kisses
****************************************************************
I feel like I am eating too much. Can someone please help me with my
meal plan? I am not leaving near my surgeon or nut any longer and
haven't met with either of them since one month post op. I feel like
I am doing this blind and I am so scared. Please help......I am so
afraid of getting big again. I am even having nightmares about food
chasing me....Please help..
Becca

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] PS costs

2007-12-07 17:48:25

Check prices for out of country like Mexico, Brazil, Costa Rica.
Great doctors, clinics and low prices at least compared to US/ Canadian prices
ALPOWRIV
Post-Op LAP RNY Jan 11, 2006
Monterrey, Mexico
Plastic Surgery round #1 May 2007 - TT, Chest, Arms
Buenos Aires, Argentina
HW 469lbs BMI 67.8
CW 195lbs BMI 28 Just Overweight Now
GW 185-200lbs BMI ??

Re: Sample Menu - Protein

2007-12-07 13:29:57

Hi Cindy,
My NUT has told me that eventually I should be getting all my protein
from my food intake and cut back/cut out the protein drinks. To tell
you the truth, I need to question my surgeon, my NUT and my bariatric
internist a little bit about that, because it's my understanding that
the portion of our intestines that absorbs the majority of our
protein intake has been bypassed, and because of that, we have lost
the ability to break down and absorb the protein from our foods. I
wonder if that's a bit overstated by the group you mention. (I think
I may be a member of the same group, and frankly, I think they are a
bit "out there" on quite a few things, but I enjoy reading and
getting different viewpoints, because it helps me to ferret out the
truth.)
I'm glad you posed the question here, because I was going to ask
pretty much the same thing myself soon! :