Medifast

2006-12-31 22:04:51

Jess,
Can you tell me what is Medifast, if it is shakes, can you also eat
food during the days of taking it, and do you think you have been on
it about 8 weeks to lose 32 pounds? If so, do you think 4 lbs lost
per week is about normal or average?
Joanne

Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] Sharon's Pics

2006-12-31 20:07:56

thank you Lizanne. . I can feel the change and sometimes see it. . i know i have
done well because my feet dont hurt like they did before. . Thank you again so
much
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW170**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] For Penny

2006-12-31 10:37:09

Thank you Jill. sounds like we could all use some kneeling tonight.
Penny

Re: new member questionair

2006-12-31 03:10:51

Hi Jane! Welcome!
I think I may have missed a few other new members in the past little
bit. If so, please know that I'm glad all of you are here with us!
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 16.5 lbs.

Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] OUR confession S :(

2006-12-30 15:02:30

Sorry about the crap Joanne. . yes when i tried to help you quit for your
surgery i wasnt smoking .. and i slid backwards and here i am.. sorry again
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW172**GW125-130

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-30 12:01:36

Wooo!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship & Support] This Surgery isn't all bad

2006-12-30 08:23:28

Lizanne,
As a newbie who found this site a few months before surgery I have to say I
have never found it negative. I have found it full of love and support for those
who were struggeling and lots and lots of humor. I feel much more prepared to
use this tool I have been given after listening to all the advice here.
Yesterday I was having a bad day and was only able to eat 185 calories and guess
what? I had YOUR voice in my head all day! (at least a facsimili of since I
don't know what you really sound like.) I kept remembering what you said about
making sure we got all of our nutrients in even if we didn't feel like it. If
you had not been willing to share with us your problems with hair loss and your
inability to eat and drinik like you were supposed to after surgery I would not
have understood how important it really is. Today I have upped my calories and
taken all of my vitamins. As a newbie it was important to hear all sides of the
surgery. i appreciate all of the information
I have recieved. Thanks
Debby
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
Jess,
One thing I did want to bring up. It seems that mostly we discuss
the bad side of this surgery. We have long discussions about how we
have coped. I think sometimes many new people get a very negative
feeling concerning this surgery. I just want to mention again, that
there is no one here, I believe, who wishes they NEVER had it. We
have accomplishments and great weight loss along with new healthier
selves. It's just that the things that bother us are shared openly
here. I just thought I would bring that up once and a while in case
we have given the wrong impression.
Lizanne
251/183.8/125

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] new member questionai

2006-12-29 22:48:41

Welcome Jane,
Good luck going through the process prior to surgery. It can be quite a
rollar coaster, hold on it's worth it in the long run. You've joined
a group with allot of great people. Ask any questions you may have.
Edie
11/15/07
lap rny
302/292/256/150's
hw/sw/cw/goal

For Penny

2006-12-29 22:08:39

Penny,
It sounds like you could use a few hugs and prayers on your behalf,
too. Here's a hug {{{ Penny }}} . . . gotta go hit my knees
now . .. .
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 16.5 lbs.

Re: SOOOOO stressed out

2006-12-29 11:02:45

{{{ Lora }}}
I hope the bubble bath helped to soothe you some. You've been having
some rough stuff hit you!
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 16.5 lbs.

OUR confession S :(

2006-12-29 08:33:02

also started back and its like it was before. . he just keeps getting
them. . He does this quietly and i think as long as i do it . . its
ok for him too
I know this is none of my business but is Cal your other half? Did he
quit with the book? Or has he smoked all along? When you picked them
back up at first, were they unfamiliar and gross or did you brain get
a high off them and tell you that you should have never gave them up
in the first place? Now weren't you one of the ppl that was in on
helping to make me stop smoking? I swear I think this group is just
going to go through some gigantic confessional of some sort, it looks
like all kinds of crap is coming out of lots of us!
ANYBODY ELSE CARE TO DUMP WHILE WE'RE HERE???
Joanne
Seattle

Re: New pic. waiting for approval

2006-12-29 00:09:23

Sheggy,
I loved the picture of you and your daughgter in your old pants.
It's really cute.
I am worried about Lucy, though. She has some evil eyes in that
picture.
Lizanne

Re: Hi Friends

2006-12-28 20:14:03

Kay,
We have been so worried about you. I am so glad to hear the positive
notes in you message. The water thing is difficult especially the
first couple months. Just keep keep a bottle of fluid and keep sipping
all day long. That will help you get started in the right direction.
15 pounds lost already. Doesn't that make you feel good? Take care of
yourself, Kay and follow the rules as best you can....walk, walk, walk,
sip, sip, sip, eat that protein and take those vitamins. Concentrate
on getting yourself healthier.
Lizanne
Maryland
251/184/125

Praying

2006-12-28 19:37:23

Pat,
I too pray right away before I go to the next post. If I say I'll
pray for you, I don't want to lie about that so I do it right away.
That way it won't get overlooked.
Lizanne

Reduced stomach acid

2006-12-28 07:07:03

This is a liitle off topic, but Jill's post reminded me of a program
I watched on TV last night. Does anyone watch "House"? My TV
doesn't always get that channel and I don't watch TV very often, but
have always liked that show. The patient got an infection from the
bacteria in cheese. He was at a cheese tasting function and because
he has taken meds for his acid reflux, the acid in his tummy was
reduced allowing the bacteria in the cheese to florish. It made me
wonder if that is something we should consider when eating foods that
might have extra bacteria. I think all foods probably have some
bacteria, just because that's life. But should we stay away from
really moldy cheeses? Just wondering if anyone else has some incite.
Lizanne

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-28 04:22:28

Hi Susan, and welcome to the group!
Jill
lap RNY 12-03-07
- 16.5 lbs.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] DEBBY DEBB

2006-12-27 22:29:12

Anesthesia can cause headaches to.
Edie
11/15/07
lap rny
302/292/256/150's
hw/sw/cw/goal

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-27 10:46:07

That would be great Sharon.
Susan

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-27 06:42:20

Susan,
I have a sorta friend who has just sold her house in Vacaville and is
slowly moving east. Do you know Sharon Mullane? She married an old
boyfriend of mine about 2 years ago. I don't know her previous last
name. It just surprised me to see that town's name.
Oh, and this answered my question about Richmond. Not Virginia I
see. Anyway, ask any questions, even if you think it is simple. A
lot of us have been on the verge of this new life like you and we are
so willing to help you join us.
Lizanne

This Surgery isn't all bad

2006-12-27 03:49:00

Jess,
One thing I did want to bring up. It seems that mostly we discuss
the bad side of this surgery. We have long discussions about how we
have coped. I think sometimes many new people get a very negative
feeling concerning this surgery. I just want to mention again, that
there is no one here, I believe, who wishes they NEVER had it. We
have accomplishments and great weight loss along with new healthier
selves. It's just that the things that bother us are shared openly
here. I just thought I would bring that up once and a while in case
we have given the wrong impression.
Lizanne
251/183.8/125

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] new member questionair

2006-12-26 21:11:06

Welcome Jane,
This is a good group to be in. Full of alot of good information and support.
I live in Elk Grove and work in Sacramento. I also had my surgery at Kaiser but
at the Freemont facility. I'm glad you're here. Kaiser has a great support group
at the Elk Grove Kaiser on Tuesday nights at 7 if you don't have a live group
yet.
Debby
janerdickey <janerdickey@...
Name:Jane Dickey
2. City and State: Sacramento CA
3. E-mail Address:janerdickey@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: I am in the
process of preparing for the surgery. I have completed aobut half of
the requirments.
5. Date of WLS:Most likely summer
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: To be decided /South San Fransisco
7. Type of Surgery:Gastic bypass
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:334
9. Insurance or Self-Pay:insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if applicable):Kaiser
11. How did you hear about this group?: from someone on the Kaiser
WLS group
12. Birthdate:5/20/61
13. Occupation:teaher
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?):
Married/ Ed dickey
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names?
2 children JJ is my oldest and Christa is my youngest
16. Hobbies:scrapbooking, camping,stamping,reading,
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members:
I look forward to meeting many of you.

Re: Hello Friends..........

2006-12-26 18:04:08

My Daughter has not had any problems at all since she had the baby Thank You.
My Oldest is havin problems but not Medically But all will be fine.
Hope Everyone is doing well on here?
I am fine Just quiet & tired. ?
Carol
bigmom815@...
http://www.hoverspot.com/bbws
http://www.friendster.com/bbws

new member questionair

2006-12-26 04:59:00

Name:Jane Dickey
2. City and State: Sacramento CA
3. E-mail Address:janerdickey@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op: I am in the
process of preparing for the surgery. I have completed aobut half of
the requirments.
5. Date of WLS:Most likely summer
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: To be decided /South San Fransisco
7. Type of Surgery:Gastic bypass
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:334
9. Insurance or Self-Pay:insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if applicable):Kaiser
11. How did you hear about this group?: from someone on the Kaiser
WLS group
12. Birthdate:5/20/61
13. Occupation:teaher
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?):
Married/ Ed dickey
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names?
2 children JJ is my oldest and Christa is my youngest
16. Hobbies:scrapbooking, camping,stamping,reading,
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members:
I look forward to meeting many of you.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Re:Newbie

2006-12-26 03:53:19

Thank you to all of you that have welcomed me to this group.
Susan G
Vacaville, CA

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-25 18:24:12

Welcome again Susan .. so i was close. . it was Richmond Ca... we are growing
out here in CA ... some day soon we all hope to figure out a way to meet ea
other :))
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW172**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Exercise Excuses

2006-12-25 12:27:22

oppps .. then i cant use that excuse either???
:((
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW172**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Hello Friends..........

2006-12-25 12:07:19

Carol you are doing wonderful..you will have to post a slimmer you pic. I am so
happy to hear the baby is doing so well. How is your daughter doing. Has she had
any more problems? Just pop in whenever you can..we love hearing from you.
Penny

Hello Friends..........

2006-12-25 03:18:35

It is me again Sorry Didn't post sooner :) in Christmas 2006 I was
425 lbs. I started to lose weight on my own just before my surgery
Oct. 2nd, 2007 I was 404 lbs. as of Wed. jan. 16th, 2008 I was 348
lbs.
Dr. D'Arcy Duke said she would be happy if I lost 125 lbs. I want to
get to at least 190 lbs. where my Oldest Daughter is at now.
Also my Preemie Grandson my "Tiny Tike" is now 9 lbs. & 2 1/2 months
old they finally goin to have a baby shower sat. from what I heard
wish i was there.
Hope everyone is doing well, Welcome Newbies, Welcome New losers all
will be well.
I wanted to say also the ones who have had the 'Sleeve Gastrectomy'
cannot always eat sugar I know I had that surgery. I have to watch
what I eat the weight loss my Doc said will be slow but I am doing
Very well, My Dietician is very Happy too.
it is not easy when you have NO Family NO Friends around & live
alone too with NO significant other helpin.
Take care have a Blessed Weekend, OH & Naomi next time bring your
camera :) I think the group would love a Pic of both of us together.
Carol
bigmom815
bigmom815@...
http://www.myspace.com/bbws

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] New Member-Sally

2006-12-25 01:08:55

Welcome to the group Sally!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW170**GW125-130

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-24 14:03:08

Hey Susan,
My two youngest daughters were born at Travis Air Force base while we were
stationed at the then "Mare Island" in Vallejo. Lived in Am. Canyon for 4 years
back in the 70s. I just bought a new embroidery machine so maybe we can chat on
the side. If you would like to email me privately you can at Pennyisnot@....
Glad you are aboard.
Penny

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Naomi's Pics

2006-12-24 03:47:38

Wowwwweeee Naomi,, you look greatttt!!! But you know you don't have to wear
black anymore..my past favorite color..Now I do reds and bright
colors..something I always shied away from before..
Penny

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] New pic. waiting for approval

2006-12-24 03:04:27

WOOHOO!!! That's wonderful Shannon! I think your furbaby is as good for you as
you are for her!! How lucky you found each other!
Pat
sheggy1969 <sheggy1969@...
My daughter and I can share clothes now--we can wear the same
pants--at
the same time!!!!!!!!!
And of course I had to throw in another picture of our new furbaby.
Otherwise known as my new exercise regimen. She doesn't walk, she runs.
Sheggy/Shannon

New pic. waiting for approval

2006-12-23 18:43:04

My daughter and I can share clothes now--we can wear the same pants--at
the same time!!!!!!!!!
And of course I had to throw in another picture of our new furbaby.
Otherwise known as my new exercise regimen. She doesn't walk, she runs.
Sheggy/Shannon

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-23 08:37:41

Welcome Susan,
Your surgery date will be here before you know it. You have chosen a group
with allot of smart, wonderful people.
Keep in touch,
Edie
11/15/07
lap rny
302/292/256/150's
hw/sw/cw/goal

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Exercise Excuse

2006-12-23 06:17:07

Well that puts this internal debate of mine into perspective. Thanks for
passing it on.
Edie
11/15/07
lap rny
302/292/256/150's
hw/sw/cw/goal

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-23 05:18:19

only you Ally... and only when you beg :Þ
Pat
Allison <allisonmarie22@...
Hi Susan-
One of my best friends in the world lives in Vacaville (Cow Town!!) at Travis
AFB.
Welcome to our group! Don't be shy! Only Pat bites. hehe
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Hi Friends

2006-12-22 15:19:14

It's great to have you back with us, Kay.... congratulations on the weight
loss!! It's hard for everyone to get in all the liquids in protein in the
beginning... just keep doing the best you can, and the amounts will increase
over time. Please keep us up to date on your progress!
Pat
granskay <granskay@...
It has been just 11 days since my surgery and I went to the Dr for the
first visit today. I had a rough time with lung congestion and my
hospital stay was prolonged, but I am doing well now. My stomach is
healing well and I have lost just 15 pds. All liquids are staying
down. I am not getting enough water tho. Best to all Kay

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] SOOOOO stressed out

2006-12-22 14:08:37

Lora, if my arms were long enough I would reach out and give you such a big
{{{{HUG}}}}. I don't have solutions for your problems, but please know that in
the end, they will ALL work out. Problems always work out in the end, one way
or another.
I know how stressful it will be if your mom has to move in temporarily, but it
could be a *good* thing when all is said and done. First, it would only be
*temporary*. Yes, it would be inconvenient, but it would be behind you before
you knew it. IF she moved in with you, maybe she could pay rent and help you
out with your financial problems. Make sure she knows the bind(s) you are in,
and that you would need help. She couldn't live anywhere else for free.
Pat
Lora <cicerogirl@...
HELP! I feel like I am about to have a nervous breakdown...
Between:
1) not feeling very well (and now being a bit concerned about what
this mass *might* be)
2) financial stress (I did not get a paycheck last week because I
did not work my full-time job at all the week of Christmas -- and I
had only about half the number of usual counseling clients during
December -- and, after spending over $500 on my car right before
Christmas, I just had to spend almost $1000 on my heat pump (which
is only 6 years old!) the past 2 weeks, and then a couple of days
ago I discovered a hole in an overhang where some critter is
apparently taking refuge from the cold in the floor/outer wall of my
second story (which will have to be fixed... more $$$), and it's the
first of the year so all my medical deductibles kick in again (so my
therapy sessions regarding the rape are all out-of-pocket for a
couple of months, and NOW have been informed that my medical
insurance went up from $325 to $375 per month effective this month)
3) apparently being stuck weight-wise (again)
4) trying to talk to my counselor about, and work through, the one
really bad part of my rape that is still a problem for me (which
sometimes just stirs it up even more)
5) uncertainty about my full-time job, and not yet being anywhere
close to having enough clients to quit the full-time job and pay the
bills just by counseling
6) uncertainty about my mom possibly having a buyer for her house
and her moving in with me temporarily until she finds a new one (I
love my mom dearly, and enjoy just hanging out with her... in HER
house or on vacation... but I value my privacy, and it will eb
stressful having her here
7) a BAD dumping episode (only my second episode) at work today
after drinking, of all things, a protein shake that a friend gave me
a sample of that had way too much sugar alcohol in it (nothing like
being lightheaded and shaky and nauseous and having diarrhea in the
ladies room at work)
I have just about reached my coping limit. ESPECIALLY since I can
no longer eat to relieve the stress! This past week, for the first
time, I have really struggled with the temptation to reach for
a "snack" to ease the tension. (I have been *mostly* successful at
either resisting or choosing a snack that won't do too much damage
in terms of calroies and carbs (e.g., a couple of Nilla wafers), but
I had to move the small bag of M&Ms to the trunk of my car to keep
it out of reach!)
I'm still angry, but now I know it's the stress (and not the alien
in my tummy bulge). Nothing seems to help alleviate it for very
long. (And the food wouldn't either, of course, but there's
additional stress of not having that as an option.)
Sorry to whine. I'm going to go take a VERY HOT bubble bath and try
to relax...
Lora

SOOOOO stressed out

2006-12-22 13:24:13

HELP! I feel like I am about to have a nervous breakdown...
Between:
1) not feeling very well (and now being a bit concerned about what
this mass *might* be)
2) financial stress (I did not get a paycheck last week because I
did not work my full-time job at all the week of Christmas -- and I
had only about half the number of usual counseling clients during
December -- and, after spending over $500 on my car right before
Christmas, I just had to spend almost $1000 on my heat pump (which
is only 6 years old!) the past 2 weeks, and then a couple of days
ago I discovered a hole in an overhang where some critter is
apparently taking refuge from the cold in the floor/outer wall of my
second story (which will have to be fixed... more $$$), and it's the
first of the year so all my medical deductibles kick in again (so my
therapy sessions regarding the rape are all out-of-pocket for a
couple of months, and NOW have been informed that my medical
insurance went up from $325 to $375 per month effective this month)
3) apparently being stuck weight-wise (again)
4) trying to talk to my counselor about, and work through, the one
really bad part of my rape that is still a problem for me (which
sometimes just stirs it up even more)
5) uncertainty about my full-time job, and not yet being anywhere
close to having enough clients to quit the full-time job and pay the
bills just by counseling
6) uncertainty about my mom possibly having a buyer for her house
and her moving in with me temporarily until she finds a new one (I
love my mom dearly, and enjoy just hanging out with her... in HER
house or on vacation... but I value my privacy, and it will eb
stressful having her here
7) a BAD dumping episode (only my second episode) at work today
after drinking, of all things, a protein shake that a friend gave me
a sample of that had way too much sugar alcohol in it (nothing like
being lightheaded and shaky and nauseous and having diarrhea in the
ladies room at work)
I have just about reached my coping limit. ESPECIALLY since I can
no longer eat to relieve the stress! This past week, for the first
time, I have really struggled with the temptation to reach for
a "snack" to ease the tension. (I have been *mostly* successful at
either resisting or choosing a snack that won't do too much damage
in terms of calroies and carbs (e.g., a couple of Nilla wafers), but
I had to move the small bag of M&Ms to the trunk of my car to keep
it out of reach!)
I'm still angry, but now I know it's the stress (and not the alien
in my tummy bulge). Nothing seems to help alleviate it for very
long. (And the food wouldn't either, of course, but there's
additional stress of not having that as an option.)
Sorry to whine. I'm going to go take a VERY HOT bubble bath and try
to relax...
Lora

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-22 04:08:52

Hi Susan, welcome to the group. I am in Hayward and I go to Kaiser Fremont,
going through the process right now. I'm at the lose 10%, soon as I am almost
there I go to psyche. can't wait. good luck, you will find everything you need
on here with a diversity of people going through lots of things we all relate
to. you will be blessed.
Judy --- NEW YEAR, NEW US!
"Everything Is Easier With Friends"
"Be Blessed In All Your Steps"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
262

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] DEBBY DEBBY

2006-12-21 23:31:40

Hi all, I talked to Debby today. she is doing okay. her main problem now is a
severe debilitating headache. she said it started yesterday and she hasn't
slept because its hurting so much. the incisions are fine, no problems there.
she figured it's the drop in blood sugar and the shock to her system but she
can't eat she just doesn't feel like it. but she's managed to get the bullet in
her system and some protein juice and water. i told her to get stuff in her
system or she will get dehydrated, that's a no no. also encouraged her to walk
and get some fresh air,some oxygen for that headache too.
Judy --- NEW YEAR, NEW US!
"Everything Is Easier With Friends"
"Be Blessed In All Your Steps"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
262

Re: Productive Day

2006-12-21 15:13:38

Now I'm feeling left out!
I have a lactating dog doesn't that count for something?
LOL!
I know that these issues aren't funny but sometimes you have to laugh
or cry. I am soooo sorry that so many are going through such rough
times. I'm sending cyber HUGS to all of you.
Now--For SHARON: I use you as a motivator for my mother who needs to
stop smoking. I have told her about you giving it up and that you
have to consider yourself a non smoker to be a non smoker. My mother
ended up in the ER last week with chest pains. She is 58 and a HEAVY
smoker. She has terrible asthma and had a heart attack about 4 years
ago. She has tried to stop smoking and really NEEDS to, but just
can't. She is on disability right now due to bipolar disorder, so
that complicates things. SOOOO---YOU ARE A REALLY STRONG PERSON, to
admit to us that you have started smoking again, so I know you will
have the strength to once again be a non-smoker.
(((((((((((((((((HUGS to EVERYONE)))))))))))))))))))))))!!!!
sheggy/shannon
ON A PLATEAU NOW FOR WEEKS
375/260
June 8, 2007

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-21 11:16:54

Welcome to the group! Jump right in as this is a friendly, talkative group.
Congratulations on you date. It will be here before you know it! Naomi
Susan Greggain <sgreggain@...
1. Name:Susan Greggain
2. City and State:Vacaville, CA
3. E-mail Address:sgreggain@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op:Pre-op
5. Date of WLS: 02/11/2008
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: Dr. Im, Kaiser Richmond, CA
7. Type of Surgery:RN-Y
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:303
9. Insurance or Self-Pay: Insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if applicable):Kaiser
11. How did you hear about this group?:Kaiser gastric bypass group
12. Birthdate: 08/28
13. Occupation: Disabled
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?): Divorced
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names? 2--Melanie and Carl
16. Hobbies: Machine Embroidery
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members: I am kind of
shy until I get to know everyone

Re: Naomi's Pics

2006-12-20 21:21:40

Thank you so much, I have emotional ups and downs and some are very up
and very down, but I am going to push for a Mood stabilizer when I go
to my pcp. I don't know what I would do without this group and the
daily encouragement that I get from this group, I only hope I give
something back to the people that give me so much each day on this
group. Naomi--- In

Productive Day

2006-12-20 19:14:53

Hello Friends-
I just wanted to say that as I was sitting at my desk today working like a fiend
and reading over messages (it's hard to keep up with you guys sometimes) I
realized that we've had a very productive day here. I know that a lot of times
it is hard to "air our dirty laundry" so to speak. It's so hard to admit to
others when we're doing things that are not good for us or when we've "fallen
off the wagon", but we are all so fortunate to have this group of people and
this type of support to turn to. My family and my friends try to understand
what I'm going through, but the truth is that they can't. No one can really
relate to what we go through unless they've been there themselves.
Me with my drinking
San with her drinking
Cathy with her eating disorder
Sharon with her smoking
Mary going through her divorce
Jess dealing with a separation right before her surgery
Lora and her infection
Lizanne and her hair loss
Kim struggling to have her surgery
Alex trying to get in the groove with his weight loss plan
etc.
etc.
Some people could look upon the things we talk about and struggle with as
negative. I've been in some groups where I was encouraged not to be negative
and even accused of being "broken", but I don't feel that asking people to
supress what they are going through is a good approach. We all need to know the
good and we all need somewhere to go with the bad. There are plenty of
celebrations in this group, but it is good that we all feel that we can come
here with our struggles as well.
Thanks to all of you who have felt compelled to share your struggles today, and
thanks to those of you who have been here for encouragement.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] ALEX where are you?

2006-12-20 10:45:20

Judy,
Work has been keeping me busy no computer acccess been doing alot of
footpatrol this week. I did get your message thanks. I'm glad all
went well for Debby. Doctor appointment in feb lifestyle class on
Saturday.
Alex

Have you done something to love on yourself lately??, 1/15/2008, 12:00 am

2006-12-20 10:19:18

Lisa A., I was just being a smartazz.
Joanne

[WLS Friendship &amp; Support] ALEX where are you?

2006-12-20 00:07:29

Hi Alex, where are you hiding? I left you a vm about Debby, did you get it?
how's it going? did you say you go to doctors this week? stay strong, you can do
it. the great news is that men lose quick!! not fair, but good for you.
Judy --- NEW YEAR, NEW US!
"Everything Is Easier With Friends"
"Be Blessed In All Your Steps"
Kaiser-Fremont, CA
262

Re:I sent this to Lizanne privately, but........

2006-12-19 22:26:47

Cathy,
We all want you to fight this and to get back into top shape! All we care
about is your health. Just get healthy mentally and physically!
Jenn

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-19 11:02:49

Hi Susan-
One of my best friends in the world lives in Vacaville (Cow Town!!) at Travis
AFB.
Welcome to our group! Don't be shy! Only Pat bites. hehe
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Newbie-Susan

2006-12-19 07:47:44

Lizanne:
1. Name:Susan Greggain
2. City and State:Vacaville, CA
3. E-mail Address:sgreggain@...
4. Are you: Considering Surgery, Pre-Op or Post-Op:Pre-op
5. Date of WLS: 02/11/2008
6. Surgeon's Name and Location: Dr. Im, Kaiser Richmond, CA
7. Type of Surgery:RN-Y
8. Highest Pre-Surgery Weight:303
9. Insurance or Self-Pay: Insurance
10. What is the name of the insurance company that covered your WLS
(if applicable):Kaiser
11. How did you hear about this group?:Kaiser gastric bypass group
12. Birthdate: 08/28
13. Occupation: Disabled
14. Married or Single (if married what is your spouse's name?): Divorced
15. Do you have children? If so, what are their names? 2--Melanie and Carl
16. Hobbies: Machine Embroidery
17. Anything else you would like to share with other members: I am kind of
shy until I get to know everyone

re: stall

2006-12-19 04:42:02

San,
So nice to see you again... your weight is melting off of you.. way to go!!
Where are you planning on moving to again? I think I may have missed it.
I just moved to FL on 12/29.. I was here for New Years which was really odd
spending it alone. I woke up in time to watch the ball drop.. send out my
text messages to wish a happy new year then went back to sleep.. lol. So
much energy.. hahaha
It sounds like you are getting your life back on track again too.. way to
go. Please keep in touch and we can compare notes now and then.. :-)
--
Mary in FL
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/169/140
BS/ SW/CW/GW

Naomi's Pics

2006-12-18 21:40:01

Naomi,
I just approved your pictures. You look great. Really great!! Your
smile is radiant. It's hard to believe that you are having such
emotional problems after looking at this picture. Way to go!!
PS How are you feeling?
Lizanne

Re: Fwd: stall

2006-12-18 16:24:23

San,
You sound so wonderful. It looks like you have become so much more
positive. Family is great to have around, but it's nice when we only
have ourselves to worry about. That way we can take care of
ourselves without having to feel guilty we should be doing something
else.
I bet you have lost some sizes after losing that 70 lbs. You are
just used to trying to hide so much behind your clothes, that you
feel safer in the larger clothes. You'll change when you are ready.
Also, congradulations on only weighing once a week. That usually
gives you a positive feeling when you actually see a little loss each
time. But the biggest congradulations concerns the gym. Actually
going to the gym is a huge accomplishment. We all struggle with
that. How lucky you are to have a free gym right at your place of
work.
Way to go, San,
Lizanne
251/184/125

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I sent this to Lizanne privately, but.......

2006-12-18 10:39:45

I'm sorry to hear you are both struggling with these problems. Being a
newby I pray these issues will not effect me, but I know it's a great
possibility because of our pre-existing addictive personalities. I truly
hope no one judges you because of this. We come here for support, not
deflation. I hope you both find the help you need to concur these
problems. I'll be here to listen without judgement any time you need it.
If I come up with any pearls of wisdom, or great ideas I'll be happy to pass
them along. Until then, I just wanted to pass along my support for you both.
Good luck,
Edie

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] fork in the road

2006-12-18 06:05:22

I think you said that beautifully, Mary.
All of you really mean a lot to me, and I appreciate your support more than you
know. :) I know that we will all get through this together.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: Exercise Excuses

2006-12-17 17:22:48

Ally,
What a good quote! What excuse could I possibly have?!?
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Insurance

2006-12-17 13:47:25

Thanks Mary I will pass that info along..

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] dog walking

2006-12-17 11:50:20

Mary, go for a longer walk after you take the puppy home. You need to exercise
your body so your mind won't overload itself with unhealthy desires. Do you have
any physical hobbies like crocheting or something to keep your hands busy. Look
for a new hobby while you are looking for a job. Can you pick up a college class
for the semester. Get involved with a do gooder volunteer group. I have a metal
detector that I take to the beach and look for treasures. Found a nice sterling
silver man's ring last week plus an old liberty half dollar and got my exercise
and water and protein bar in. I look for ways to make things work for me if I
can. In fact, I may just head to the beach again today. Will say prayers for you
while I am at it. I have found this is a great time to talk to God.
Love ya, Penny

fork in the road

2006-12-16 22:58:20

Ally, Lizanne and all,
I think everyone that has had the surgery knows how difficult this road
is. Even those that are here and waiting for their turn to have the
surgery is learning this as well.
I think during the first few months, it was so new to all of us, we didn't
have a problem "following the rules of the pouch" but the farther down the
road we go, it is a struggle at times. My sister points out to me all the
time that I graze.. I know I do but it isn't like I am choosing the wrong
foods ALL the time. I do eat grapes or celery with peanut butter or meat
with cheese. I know I don't get in all the protein and fluids I am suppose
to every day but I feel fine and I am trying and that counts for something.
My point here is that we are all human and no matter what "tool" we use, we
are always going to want, not need, but want the foods we know we aren't
suppose to eat. That is why I eat a taste of what ever I "want" so I do not
over indulge when the urge is there. Granted I am terrified of trying candy
or donuts but I have on occasion had McDonalds or Burger King again. It
didn't kill me and no, I didn't over indulge by eating too much and gaining
anything back. I didn't loose either which shows me I probably shouldn't
have had it but I answered my urge and enjoyed it just the same.
I do not care what anyone says to us, we all choose our own destiny.
I fight with urges every day.. some times I win.. some I loose. If we all
stick together and talk things thru, it will help us realize we are not
alone on this road and even though we take the wrong fork in the road now
and then, it will still come out right in the end.. together united.
--
Mary in FL
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/169/140
BS/ SW/CW/GW

Re: dog walking

2006-12-16 19:00:12

Mary,
I think this happens because we have not learned good habits, yet. I
know we keep hashing this out, but we have to find out how to cope
with....stress, boredom, happiness...all those things we used to
depend on food to take care of. Now, when you are bored, you need to
do something instead of eating...exercising, reading, walking,
browsing, learning, sewing, crocheting, painting,
fixing....whatever. This tool will not decide what we should do, we
have to. This past weekend, the kiosk at the mall that sells
calendars was having a sale and I bought one of those calendars that
has a project for each day of the week. I picked out the crocheting
ones. I plan to try to substitute a project in place of snacking
over the weekends. I am too busy during the week...I just work, and
swim, and that's about it. But the weekends make me want to shop and
eat...no, no, no, can't do that. I don't know if the crocheting will
help, but it's worth a try for $4.50 and some old yarn.
PS Your weight loss still seems fantastic to me. You are doing great!
Lizanne

Re:Where are my Boobs

2006-12-16 14:52:25

Good question Lisa, mine are gone too! Like you said the upside is bras are
cuter!
Jenn

Exercise Excuses

2006-12-16 04:07:49

My fiance and I are trying to take up running. We've really done badly this
week. I've just been so tired and exhausted after the deaths of my friends
mothers last weekend. Anyway, excuses, excuses.
I bought a book on Beginning Running. I thought I would share something I read
in that book.
As some of you may know, our past 2 or 3 presidents have been runners. I know
at least the last 2. Well, as I was reading the book it mentioned that and then
it said,
"If the President of the United States of America has time to excercise every
day, then why don't you?"
Whoa! Wait a minute...I don't have a good excuse anymore!!
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

dog walking

2006-12-16 03:23:43

I took my sisters dog for a walk today.. I have been depressed today with
not being able to find a job and it was getting the best of me. The dog
wouldn't leave me alone.. I guess he sensed my situation and kept nudging my
hand away from the computer so I went out with him. With his age, I
couldn't walk too awfully far but he loved it and I am feeling a tiny bit
better. I plan on doing more exercise in a bit but the biggest thing I am
fiting right now is my fight with going in to the kitchen to eat something I
do not really want or should I say "need". I know it is mind over matter.
I also have been wanting to go out for a drink but haven't done that
either...
I know they say a mind is a terrible thing to waste.. but why does it have
to be so over whelming at times? lol
--
Mary in FL
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/169/140
BS/ SW/CW/GW

Lisa L's Pics

2006-12-15 22:36:58

Lisa L,
I want your flat tummy when I lose 75 lbs. You look so good, and I
love the big smile on your face. Congradulations!!
Lizanne

Re: Insurance

2006-12-15 12:01:19

If I remember right, it's in the excusion section. That is where a
company can specifically exclude that surgery.
Also, since this surgery is becoming so popular, there is usually a
section that states what needs to be done to have the surgery
approved. Usually it ia a BMI over 40 or a BMI of 35 or greater with
at least one co-morbidity. They list the co-morbidities they will
accept, such as: Sleep Apnea, Diabetes, Hypertension, etc.
Tell your friend to keep in mind the deductible or co-pays. Mine was
$3000, and I am slowly wittling away at that. Also, my insurance did
not cover the NUT or the psyche evaluation.
He will be lucky to have you for support if he decides to take this
life changing step.
Lizanne

Cathy's Date

2006-12-15 11:34:56

Cathy,
I fixed the date on your pic from 1/11/07 to 1/11/08. To do this I
selected your picture and hit the edit button at the top right side.
Just letting you know in case someone else does it. It's Jan and easy
to do.
Lizanne

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] how do i fix the date?

2006-12-15 06:48:12

Cathy, I think what you need to do is delete those photos from your album,
rename them on your hard drive, and then repost them here with the right date.
Pat
cathymonsell <Sarrah345@...
In my most recent pics here (January 11, 2008), the year is wrong. It
should read 2008 instead of 2007, and I've tried to fix it, but I
can't. Please help!
Hugs,
Cathy1

re: Mean Guys

2006-12-14 17:41:02

Joanne,
I have been trying to keep in buried but it isn't easy to do. We still talk
and are friends. He has been turning his life around finally so I guess my
leaving the state has helped him get back on track. He had a septic ulcer
and had to have it removed and found out he wasn't as healthy as he
thought. He has now reduced his soda intake and increased his water. He
said it was odd to him but he was feeling better. The best part of it is he
has decreased his beer intake too and said it was strange to him. I told
him I was proud of him and told him he was on the right road to his new like
and recovery. He is still going to the AA type meetings too so who knows..
maybe one day he will stop drinking all together. He did tell me before I
left that he no longer had an open container in his vehicle and doesn't go
to bars and then drink... every little bit helps. I want him to get his
life back together again. I told him if he wanted to better himself with
better careers, he had to make a change in his life with the alcohol or he
could end up dead before he knew it.
We aren't together anymore but it does make me feel better that he is taking
charge of his life again and I will be supportive of that.
--
Mary in FL
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/169/140
BS/ SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Fw: How To Weigh Yourself

2006-12-14 12:20:09

Graphic didn't go.
Lady on her back, holding the scales on her feet
How to weigh yourself
I can't believe I was doing it
wrong all these years.
We must get the word out.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] My confession :(

2006-12-14 11:00:37

Sharon,
1. You recognize the problem.
2. You are DOING SOMETHING about the problem!
3. #'s 1 and 2 are the ONLY things keeping me from kicking your butt.
(Although I DO have to point out... if you are "penniless" you can not *afford*
to be buying cigarettes!!!!)
Now go read the book and make us all proud.
Pat
Sharon Buffo <septsweety@...
Well everyone . . with all the stress of being penniless and having my
husband layed off and me going from part time to fulltime w/ added
responsibilities.. . i started smoking again. not all the time but i have had a
few and im pissed. . I went a whole yr. . without. .
This weekend i am pulling out the book again and reading and hopefully by monday
i will be a non smoker again LOL
I also have a question i need to ask the members that are either long term or
post surgical or anyone that can give me an answer. . im open ....
Real gold is starting to turn my neck black from my chain and my rings on my
fingers are turning my fingers black. . Its like im wearing fake jewely or
something and i am not. Have any of you had this happen?? Am i depleted in some
vitamin or mineral? Im drinking ok .. im eating ok i think. . i have been bad
about taking protein supplements...just hate that taste. . let me know what you
guys think and please dont chastise me for having a few cigarettes. . I didnt
want to say anything for fear i would be put down. . I hate that i picked them
up again. . :((
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW172**GW125-130
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Fw: How To Weigh Yourself

2006-12-14 04:01:03

How to weigh yourself
I can't believe I was doing it
wrong all these years.
We must get the word out.

Insurance

2006-12-13 23:38:31

Penny,
I had BCBS but tell her to read her policy to see what isn't covered.. it is
usually in the back of the policy. I believe it would be amendments? It
doesn't matter what the insurance does or doesn't cover but what the company
she works for authorizies to be covered or not. The company I worked for in
KY didn't cover bypass or banding and it was in the amendments showing so.
If it is there.. normally there isn't any way to get it covered.
--
Mary in FL
LAP RNY 1/26/2007
317/296/169/140
BS/ SW/CW/GW

Re: My confession :(

2006-12-13 19:11:10

Sharon,
You poor thing. It is so hard when you have all this stress not to
fall back on old habits. Just be strong and don't let some of your
other old habits take hold of you.
I believe you have forgetten to take care of you. Your husband will
be devastated if you start to go back to your old ways and end up an
unhealthy nurse. Who will support him. LOL Think of Monday as a
new beginning. Read that book, take your vitamins, drink your
fluids, stop any carb cheating and EXERCISE. You are not making
yourself a priority. I know it's hard to just leave work when there
are things that still need to be taken care of. Who will do that
when you are sick? Make a date with yourself and the gym. or to walk
with your hubby, but start taking care of yourself. Oh, and the
smoking thing....start Monday before it becomes that giant thing you
dread having to deal with.
Please don't think I am lecturing you. I have many problems myself.
I am trying to push your butt and get you encouraged. If I am
failing, tell me what I can do to help.
Lizanne
251/184/125

My confession :(

2006-12-13 09:31:31

Well everyone . . with all the stress of being penniless and having my husband
layed off and me going from part time to fulltime w/ added responsibilities.. .
i started smoking again. not all the time but i have had a few and im pissed. .
I went a whole yr. . without. .
This weekend i am pulling out the book again and reading and hopefully by monday
i will be a non smoker again LOL
I also have a question i need to ask the members that are either long term or
post surgical or anyone that can give me an answer. . im open ....
Real gold is starting to turn my neck black from my chain and my rings on my
fingers are turning my fingers black. . Its like im wearing fake jewely or
something and i am not. Have any of you had this happen?? Am i depleted in
some vitamin or mineral? Im drinking ok .. im eating ok i think. . i have been
bad about taking protein supplements...just hate that taste. . let me know what
you guys think and please dont chastise me for having a few cigarettes. . I
didnt want to say anything for fear i would be put down. . I hate that i picked
them up again. . :((
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
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Addictions

2006-12-13 06:33:21

Ally,
I am so glad you posted this. I had told Cathy that I thought you
would understand the most. That you were having your own struggles.
I also told her that I thought there was someone else on here who may
be having a different eating problem, I am not sure, but that when
reading this may see a side of her thought process that I am seeing.
Maybe.
I see us all having the problem you have, Ally. There will come a
time when we will all reach that fork in the road....go back to our
old habits, or to keep trying to be healthy. Even if we make the
decision to stay healthy, that fork will just keep popping up and we
will need all our willpower to take the right road. Maybe the
struggle will become easier each time, or maybe harder. We didn't
have enough willpower before the surgery to follow the right road, I
hope that this "tool" will remind me of my goals.
Thank you, both of you for posting this information. I hope I stay
strong enough to ignore that little person in my head when she says
to try the wrong road this time. With support like this group, my
possibilities of succeeding are limitless.
Lizanne

Re: now an MRI...

2006-12-12 22:49:52

Lora,
Keep us posted. Take care of yourself because if there is a problem,
you want to be as healthy as possible in the other areas so you can
deal with whatever needs to be done.
I am glad your sweetie is coming this weekend. I forget, do we know
his name? It isn't Kowabunga, is it? Maybe he will pamper you a
little just to make you feel better.
I will keep you in my prayers....my surgery sister.
Lizanne

Re: I sent this to Lizanne privately, but........

2006-12-12 12:29:36

(((Cathy))), I know it took tremendous courage for you to post this,
but I just KNOW in my heart that the people on THIS board will NOT
respond negatively to it.
I'm so sorry that you have been having these issues! I have a
client who came to me because she was originally denied for WLS
because of an existing eating disorder, but then went to another
surgeon and had a different psych eval (and didn't tell them about
the problem), had the surgery, and now is fighting the problem much
as you are. She feels very ashamed that she hid the problem because
the thought surgery was the "fix", only to discover that it really
is just a tool. That's a bit different than developing the problem
after surgery, but I think the emotional toll is the same.
I am so glad that you are reaching out for the help you need (and
deserve). Hopefully you can get into the treatment program. Pleas
know, though, that the problems you are currently having do NOT
diminish your weight loss accomplishment in ANY WAY! Yes, it shows
you are not perfect, but who is? (I always HATED that people with
OTHER problems/addictions could hide them but when your problem is
food, it's out there for the entire world to see!) I would venture
to say that you are not the only one here struggling with that
issue... and that your post might help someone else seek help.
Please take care of yourself, and let us help in any way we can...
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] I sent this to Lizanne privately, but........

2006-12-12 09:09:28

Hi Cathy-
First of all let me just say that I really do feel like this is a place that you
can come with your problems and no one here will judge you. I am glad that you
decided to come out in the open with this.
I really am sorry that things have taken the turn for you that they have. It
sounds like you are seeking help though, and that is the best thing you can do
for yourself at this time. I will tell you that I am really struggling lately
myself, so know that you are not alone. I am snacking on things that I know I
shouldn't, not taking my vitamins, not tracking what I eat, not exercising, etc.
I know all of these things are leading me down the wrong path, but it's just so
hard after this surgery to deal with "losing" food. I can also tell you that I
also believe that addiction transfer is real. I struggle with my desire to
drink since surgery. It's so easy to get intoxicated now and it feels so good.
My fiance really has to help me stay focused and stick to the rules surrounding
drinking that I have set for myself.
This is a hard road. The hardest thing I've really ever done, and some days I
struggle so much with the fact that I did it to myself. I don't talk much about
this because I, like you, am fearful of what will be said to me about "wasting
my gift" or things of the like. I don't feel like I (or you for that matter)
are wasting it at this point. I just feel like we both have reached that fork
in the road where we have to decide if we're going to be successes or failures
at WLS. I know that this is something I can do. I have this wonderful group,
my fiance, my friends and my family for support. I'm sure you have a support
system as well and I encourage you to to utilize it...including us.
We're all in this together and I can just hope that eventually this struggle
will not seem like such a struggle anymore.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: Now it's a lousy week!

2006-12-12 00:33:34

Jeannie,
That's too bad. You have a lot of qualifications, so maybe you will
get a great new job, just down the road, with wonderful hours and a
huge salary. You have to keep that positive attitude. Job
dissatisfaction can be a constant stress builder, I know.
Glad to see that your liquid of choice is decaf, at least your head
is still strong.
Lizanne

how do i fix the date?

2006-12-11 16:30:17

In my most recent pics here (January 11, 2008), the year is wrong. It
should read 2008 instead of 2007, and I've tried to fix it, but I
can't. Please help!
Hugs,
Cathy1

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] now an MRI...

2006-12-11 14:54:24

Lora, I'll keep my fingers crossed that it's nothing serious.. and that it's
easy to fix!
Pat
Lora <cicerogirl@...
The CT scan showed a mass of some kind, but it is unclear exactly what
it is or what it is or is not attached to, so they are going to try to
get me in for an MRI tomorrow. Meanwhile, the pain is back (but the
fever is not) and I'm still not feeling very well so am still probably
just going to just be popping in and out. (But my honey is coming
Saturday, weather permitting, so maybe that will make me feel better.)
Lora

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Hi, I'm new... El Paso - Joan

2006-12-11 12:06:19

We could get the waiter/waitress to take a pic of just our faces and post it
here!
Seriously... my husband is planning to spend allllllll day Sunday with my
dad... watching two football games an getting take out food. I'm available if
you want to meet.
Pat
Bdrcolliez@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/16/2008 6:47:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
pat.0913@... writes:
Maybe I can get her to meet me for lunch... I'll buy... lol
How about it. Joan????
Pat, I would really love to meet you (provided there is no camera involved).
LOL
Joan
**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I sent this to Lizanne privately, but........

2006-12-10 23:03:51

She gave me the encouragement to share my story with the group. I'm
really scared, but I really should put my story out there for
everyone here to see. I thank you all for your understanding....I
really really need your support!
Love, Cathy1
Lap RNY 2/22/07
317/168/140
Dear Lizanne,
I'm e-mailing you privately because I just don't
felt horrible and in so much pain, I purged the apple and it was and
is so painful today, like someone ripped out the lining of my
esophagus!
proof that it does! I'm trying to fill a lot of empty holes and
voids in my life.

Re: saying hello

2006-12-10 19:16:51

Kim,
You can do it!!! Just keep thinking about the reward you will get for
doing this. We are all behind you.
Lizanne

Re: Exercise Freak

2006-12-10 13:02:46

Dawn, that's great! I still do NOT like to exercise (having my iPod
with me helps, but still...), but I have been using the "fitness
center" we have in our office building on either Saturday or Sunday
morning (no one else there... VERY important!) -- just the treadmill
and recumbant bike (the elliptical KILLS my knees from the
word "go") -- and although I only am doing 2 miles walking at
between 2.5 and 3 miles per hour, and am doing about 3-4 miles on
the bike, I have to admit that I have found myself wishing it was
closer to home so I could go in late in the evening or otherwise use
it more often.
I'm not at all worried about becoming an exercise fanatic (it's just
too boring)... I just know I need to do it more often to benefit
from it the way I want to. I *do* however feel good when I'm
done... not because I enjoyed doing it, but because I know that I
have done something good for my well-being.
Lora

Re: Where are my Boobs

2006-12-10 10:03:43

Lisa L,
When they say you lose from the head downward, they really mean your
boobs disappear. In the beginning of the weight loss, my band size
stayed the same, but my cup dropped 2 sizes. Not only are the girls
smaller they are much less full. I think the band size may not have
changed due to this "hernia" I have, if that's what it's called.
I see the surgeon Jan 30. So that will verify that it is what I have
been speculating about. In my water aerobics class, a co-worker of
one of the ladies just had the same surgery for the same thing I
think I have. They did a tummy tuck on her also. So I am keeping my
fingers crossed....not that I have a hernia, because who wants a
deformity, but that if I do have one, I can get my TT covered by
insurance. I have a $3000 deductible, so although it will still cost
me more than I can afford, at least it will be discounted.
Lizanne
251/184/125

now an MRI...

2006-12-10 01:07:04

The CT scan showed a mass of some kind, but it is unclear exactly what
it is or what it is or is not attached to, so they are going to try to
get me in for an MRI tomorrow. Meanwhile, the pain is back (but the
fever is not) and I'm still not feeling very well so am still probably
just going to just be popping in and out. (But my honey is coming
Saturday, weather permitting, so maybe that will make me feel better.)
Lora

Re:Newbie

2006-12-09 14:50:03

Welcome Susan, there are quite a few of us in this group from Northern
California, and several of us are also Kaiser patients but we have learned that
each Kaiser center works a bit differently than another. Anyway, welcome to the
group.
Beth in
Stockton, CA

Mean Guys

2006-12-09 14:21:53

Some men also have another motive behind their cruel nastiness. I
don't know if you have ever heard of the radio guy, Tom leikis or
whatever his name is, but this guy trains men on how to disrespect
women so that they stay submissive or whatever it is that they want
women to do for them. I think the plan is to knock out what little
self esteem women have left in them so that they will feel so bad
about themselves taht they stay enslaved to the cruelty forever. If
your husband is one of those dudes, you would have not played his
game correctly. It's hard to say. He may have felt as bad about
himself as he put out to you and may have felt he never deserved you
so he pushed you away. No way to tell for sure and better to leave
that mess buried in KY where it belongs!
Joanne
Seattle

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Insurance Question

2006-12-09 07:23:36

Sorry Penny. . i have United Health Care. .
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW173**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Clothes Swp Group

2006-12-09 01:46:49

Just curious how the clothes swap group works and how to join. . I am in New
Mexico and wondering do we mail the clothes out to others or does it rely solely
on those that are locally in the same area? Thanks.
Amy
Proud Air Force Wife
no surgery date yet
CW 275

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Now it's a lousy week!

2006-12-08 19:52:29

Jeannie, it appears to me that you are being handed a wonderful opportunity to
move on to bigger and better things, in a more stable environment. Who knows
what you would have missed out on if you weren't being spurred to get out and
look around! I believe that you will end up going to something better than what
you are leaving.
Pat
Jeannie <jmartino_leclerc@...
Well, big surprise, we had a HUGe lay-off today. 325 out of 815 are
gone.
Two of my folks are gone, and I had no input. One was leaving in 2
weeks anyway, and the other had only been here 5 months. I would have
made the same decision, but it's a little disconcerting to know that I
matter so little.
SO, I am probably good until May. Of course I have just applied fro a
few other positions. As I told my techs, it would be unwise NOT to be
feeling around.
I really like my job, but I can do the same thing at a more stable
company. Maybe I'll get a raise, too.
Jeannie <-- who is drowning her sorrows in decaf

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Please approve my pics

2006-12-08 17:22:46

Wow Lisa! What a difference! I still love the pic of your dog "helping" you
with the dishes... lol
Pat
Lisa Lockwood <lockwoodl@...
Hi,
Finally posted some after shots so please approve.
Lisa L.

posted

2006-12-08 10:49:37

I posted new pics...so i think i'm suppose to let someone know and then
you can approve them????? Hmm don't know if i'm getting any better
with this.
Anyway
have a good night and I will add some more presurg pics before I go
into the hospital.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Exercise Freak

2006-12-07 21:58:42

Dawn,
What's going on with you??? You're getting *fit*... THAT'S what's going on
with you!!! Congratulations!! All your hard work is paying off!
Pat
Dawn <scottndawn@...
Hi!
As I posted a couple of days ago, things at my work have been
extremely stressful and I've been putting in a lot of hours. Despite
my hours, I have been insisting that I continue to exercise every day
so I'm getting up even earlier and popping in a tape (usually the 2
mile Walk Away the Pounds video by Leslie Sansone or Billy Blanks
TaeBo Basics). Anyway, this morning something weird happened. I got
up around 5:45, did the few things I needed to do (laundry, make my
lunch for work, etc and checked messages here), then looked at the
time. I had a good 40 minutes before I had to start getting ready.
I thought hey, I can get at least 2 miles out of the 3 mile video.
So... I put in Leslie Sansone's 3 mile Walk Away the Pounds video -
just for something different. And boy did I get into it. I went
into it thinking I'd only do 2 miles, but by time the tape ended and
I had done 3 miles, I wasn't done! I wanted to go more - and I COULD
go more. I felt really, really good about that.
Today I was talking with one of the girls at work who organizes the
March of Dimes walk during the spring time and after talking about
the above, she's insisting I join her for the 5 mile walk. I am
actually excited about this - I can't wait! What is going on with me?
I will say this - the extra push I put into the walk this morning
really helped me work off the stress that has been building. I
really needed that today.
Has anyone else experienced this weirdness? I've never been an
exercise freak and I think I'm turning into one! *L*
Anyway, off to bed I go. My son's ready to go to sleep.
I hope everyone has a good night!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/182/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] upload difficulty

2006-12-07 17:59:37

Jess, your pic is there and you are a very pretty girl! Your weight doesn't
show in your face :)
Pat
jlady76 <jlady76@...
Well I'm trying to make a photo album with no success....I'm not
having
to much luck. Any suggestions?

Now it's a lousy week!

2006-12-07 11:20:31

Well, big surprise, we had a HUGe lay-off today. 325 out of 815 are
gone.
Two of my folks are gone, and I had no input. One was leaving in 2
weeks anyway, and the other had only been here 5 months. I would have
made the same decision, but it's a little disconcerting to know that I
matter so little.
SO, I am probably good until May. Of course I have just applied fro a
few other positions. As I told my techs, it would be unwise NOT to be
feeling around.
I really like my job, but I can do the same thing at a more stable
company. Maybe I'll get a raise, too.
Jeannie <-- who is drowning her sorrows in decaf

Insurance Question

2006-12-07 08:23:27

Does anyone have Pacific Care Insurance and can you tell me about their
requirements, promptness, attitude etc. I have a friend considering GBS and
Pacific Care is his insurance carrier.
Thanks
Penny

Exercise Freak

2006-12-07 04:49:56

Hi!
As I posted a couple of days ago, things at my work have been
extremely stressful and I've been putting in a lot of hours. Despite
my hours, I have been insisting that I continue to exercise every day
so I'm getting up even earlier and popping in a tape (usually the 2
mile Walk Away the Pounds video by Leslie Sansone or Billy Blanks
TaeBo Basics). Anyway, this morning something weird happened. I got
up around 5:45, did the few things I needed to do (laundry, make my
lunch for work, etc and checked messages here), then looked at the
time. I had a good 40 minutes before I had to start getting ready.
I thought hey, I can get at least 2 miles out of the 3 mile video.
So... I put in Leslie Sansone's 3 mile Walk Away the Pounds video -
just for something different. And boy did I get into it. I went
into it thinking I'd only do 2 miles, but by time the tape ended and
I had done 3 miles, I wasn't done! I wanted to go more - and I COULD
go more. I felt really, really good about that.
Today I was talking with one of the girls at work who organizes the
March of Dimes walk during the spring time and after talking about
the above, she's insisting I join her for the 5 mile walk. I am
actually excited about this - I can't wait! What is going on with me?
I will say this - the extra push I put into the walk this morning
really helped me work off the stress that has been building. I
really needed that today.
Has anyone else experienced this weirdness? I've never been an
exercise freak and I think I'm turning into one! *L*
Anyway, off to bed I go. My son's ready to go to sleep.
I hope everyone has a good night!
Dawn in PA
Lap RNY 06/27/07
305/278/182/140
HW/SW/CW/GW

Please approve my pics

2006-12-06 18:41:52

Hi,
Finally posted some after shots so please approve.
Lisa L.

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] saying hello

2006-12-06 13:43:50

thats the way to do it Kim!!! One day at a time. . Your gonna lose those 30lbs
before you know it!!
~*Sharon XOXO*~
"THIN feels better than FAT tastes!"
Lap RNY 7/30/07
HW242**SW232**CW173**GW125-130

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Haven't been here for ages......pls read

2006-12-06 07:32:15

Cathy there is nothing to forgive and it sounds like you need to jump in here
and vent. Let us know what is wrong...we don't care if it is long..you need help
and that is what we are here for. C'mon girl,,give...And here is a great big
<<<<hug
Penny

saying hello

2006-12-06 04:13:32

         just letting ya all know im still here i
been doing good..
Rough at times but im still doing it. I had 2 shakes and a salad today thats
it for today and drinking lots of water water water....
Kim
  
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Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] Where are my Boobs

2006-12-06 02:07:22

I can tell you where my boobs are. They're hovering somewhere near my belly
button these days. It definitely makes me want to cry. I can't wait to have
them done around the end of this year.
~Ally~
Atlanta, GA
Lap RNY 7/12/07
251/237/174/130
HW/SW/CW/GW

Re: [WLS Friendship &amp; Support] This seems obvious to me

2006-12-05 10:02:53

Interesting, but which came first - the chicken or the egg? Naomi
lizanneflowers <lizanneflowers@...
(HealthDay News) -- Obesity and depression often go
hand-in-hand in middle-aged women, a new U.S. study found.
The research collected information on the height, weight, dietary and
exercise habits, and body image of 4,641 women, ages 40 to 65,
enrolled in a health plan. The women also completed a questionnaire
used to measure depression symptoms.
Women with clinical depression were more than twice as likely to be
obese (a body mass index of 30 or more), and obese women were more
than twice as likely to be depressed, the study found.
It also found that women with BMIs of 30 or higher exercised the
least, had the poorest body image, and consumed 20 percent more
calories than women with lower BMIs.
The link between obesity and depression remained intact even when the
researchers factored in marital status, education, tobacco use and
antidepressant use.
The study was published in the January/February issue of the journal
General Hospital Psychiatry.
It's likely that depression and obesity fuel one another, said lead
author Dr. Gregory Simon, a psychiatrist and researcher at Group
Health Cooperative in Seattle.
"When people gain weight, they're more likely to become depressed,
and when they get depressed, they have more trouble losing weight,"
he said in a prepared statement.
The stigma of being overweight can damage self-esteem and efforts to
lose weight.
"It's not that these women are clueless. It's that they're hopeless,"
said Simon, who suggested that if obese women focus on rebuilding
their self esteem, it may help them lose weight.
More information
The American Academy of Family Physicians has more about women and
depression

Where are my Boobs

2006-12-05 07:24:58

Sorry boys for the topic but it is the most amazing thing a day or two
ago I had 40 DD's and then I woke up with 36 C's. I don't know whether
to laugh or cry. The upside is the bra's are definitely cuter in this
size and I bought this great one at Victorias Secret that pushes them
up and puts them back where they used to be before 2 kids and WLS. The
downside well now once again my top is out of proportion with my bottom.
Oh and I finally asked my husband to take a couple of photos of me so I
could post some after shots but either I am getting old or he is a
horrible photographer cause they were awful so I will try again tonite
(in better lighting:).
Lisa L.
Lap RNY 9/12/07
246/171/150

Individuals, not teams

2006-12-05 01:29:39

RICHARDSON, Texas - With music pumping in the background, the kids in
Terry Wade's physical education class are in constant motion, going
from sit-ups to jumping jacks to curls with light weights.
After their 45-minute session, the sixth-graders who are sweating the
most, or as Wade calls it, "burning butter," get stickers.
"My main goal and emphasis is getting these kids up and moving," said
Wade, who teaches at Northrich Elementary in the Richardson school
district in suburban Dallas. "It's 'Can this kid do this for a
lifetime?' I don't care how good they are. I care if they're having
fun."
Instead of team sports, Wade and other physical education teachers
across the country are focusing more on individual activities that
students can incorporate into their lives long after their school
days are over.
Experts say the shift also helps gym teachers include children who
are struggling with their weight. With individual activities,
overweight students can work at their own pace, and not be left on
the sidelines. And they can take part in lower impact activities like
weightlifting, yoga or martial arts.
"Now we organize our classes in such a way where no kids are
sitting," said Susan Henderson, coordinator for physical education
and health for the Dallas-area Mesquite school district.
She said that even if the lesson is about a team sport like football,
they focus on skills like passing the ball.
"Nobody is waiting their turn," Henderson said.
Steve Jefferies, head of the department of health, human performance
and nutrition at Central Washington University in Ellensburg, Wash.,
is a fan of treasure hunts and other activities that students can do
without realizing they are getting exercise. That shifts the focus to
finding things, not the half-mile walk to get there, he said.
Jefferies suggests teachers wear a weight belt to get an idea of what
an overweight student experiences.
"You've got to find something that each individual person enjoys,"
said Jefferies, who also runs a Web site to help physical education
teachers keep up with the latest developments.
Gym teachers also are placing a greater emphasis on general health
and nutrition, said Craig Buschner, president of the National
Association for Sport and Physical Education.
"This field had to make changes. It's not about dodge ball and it's
not about duck-duck-goose," said Buschner. He added that the obesity
epidemic has helped educators make a case that students need more
physical education time.
How to deal with overweight children in class is something that's on
the minds of future gym teachers, too.
"My undergraduates are asking 'What do I do?'" said Josh Trout, of
California State University, Chico, who has written a book set to be
released in February called "Supersized PE: A Comprehensive Guidebook
for Teaching Overweight Students."
Wade said she walks a fine line when instructing her students: "I
don't want to push anyone past what they're capable of doing, but I
don't want them to take it too easy."
As the morning light poured in from the windows in her gym, she asked
her sixth-graders: "How are you graded in this class?"
A chorus of replies comes quickly: "Effort."

This seems obvious to me

2006-12-04 16:07:42

MONDAY, Jan. 14 (HealthDay News) -- Obesity and depression often go
hand-in-hand in middle-aged women, a new U.S. study found.
The research collected information on the height, weight, dietary and
exercise habits, and body image of 4,641 women, ages 40 to 65,
enrolled in a health plan. The women also completed a questionnaire
used to measure depression symptoms.
Women with clinical depression were more than twice as likely to be
obese (a body mass index of 30 or more), and obese women were more
than twice as likely to be depressed, the study found.
It also found that women with BMIs of 30 or higher exercised the
least, had the poorest body image, and consumed 20 percent more
calories than women with lower BMIs.
The link between obesity and depression remained intact even when the
researchers factored in marital status, education, tobacco use and
antidepressant use.
The study was published in the January/February issue of the journal
General Hospital Psychiatry.
It's likely that depression and obesity fuel one another, said lead
author Dr. Gregory Simon, a psychiatrist and researcher at Group
Health Cooperative in Seattle.
"When people gain weight, they're more likely to become depressed,
and when they get depressed, they have more trouble losing weight,"
he said in a prepared statement.
The stigma of being overweight can damage self-esteem and efforts to
lose weight.
"It's not that these women are clueless. It's that they're hopeless,"
said Simon, who suggested that if obese women focus on rebuilding
their self esteem, it may help them lose weight.
More information
The American Academy of Family Physicians has more about women and
depression

Re: Haven't been here for ages......pls read

2006-12-04 14:05:46

Cathy,
I kept wondering where you were but no one seemed to know. I
approved your pictures. Wow...Wow....wow...do you lo